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Has FreeRepublic Jumped The Shark With Trump?
2/14/16 | OV

Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike

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To: OneVike
The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again,

Lost me here. Trump has no political record. He has statements he's made at various times in his life that run the gamut of the political spectrum. But they are essentially meaningless and could be attributed to context or a deal that was going on at the time. Right now, today, he's offering conservative principles. That's the only political record he has. He's a clean slate and it comes down to whether you believer what's he's saying is true. I think it is based on the fact that he's written that you have to keep your promises when it comes to striking any big deal. I believe him.

581 posted on 02/15/2016 8:00:29 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Wish there was a like button.


582 posted on 02/15/2016 8:00:29 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: Rashputin

“He’s a dyed in the wool Presbyterian. Why would he ask forgiveness?”

Exactly, Calvinism, he was born righteous!


583 posted on 02/15/2016 8:08:58 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: longhorn too

I agree with you on that also... but I can’t cast stones over her adult children causing her embarrassment. We thought we raised ours right. The oldest is now 40 and the youngest just turned 34. They have done a lot that we are proud of, but I hope that we are not judged too often by their screw-ups.


584 posted on 02/15/2016 8:17:52 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: OneVike

Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn’t too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.


Seriously? You spent the weekend culling thru the posts of Trump supporters? Are you putting them into an EXCEL spreadsheet to use against them down the line during the primary?

Did you note the owner has said good things about Trump?

A lot of the Trump supporters actually have been here a lot longer than 8 years (and frankly, 8 years is a pretty long time IMHO).

We all know this is an open forum, but I doubt most of us suspect a fellow Freeper would be viewing and categorizing our posting history. Seriously! It is something I would expect from the NSA, not a fellow Freeper! It is intrusive!

Though I am sure that my reply to you will now land me on some future search list of yours, you should know that I REALLY FIND THIS VERY CREEPY OF YOU, and I think you need to go find a hobby.


585 posted on 02/15/2016 8:24:30 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (h)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

Of course. And then did fairly well. I'm not sure how it could have been done better without throwing out all "religion" entirely.

Which if they had done so, would have brought the nation's founding principles to the being under assault by present-times Godlessness of the left wing even faster than it has.

You had set up a theoretical, then made a comparison which would have had the U.S. ending up as equivalent with Iran.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, but to make the comparison level, then those of Iran too would have to have everything boiled down to one single passage of what among themselves is authoritative religious text.

Hey, why stop there?

What if it were to also be boiled down here in the USA, to one single passage of text from among what Bible-rejecting atheists would accept as authoritative?

They could not consult now with the Constitution, not without ignoring, fully setting aside the most basic and fundamental premises which provided foundation for that document to arise in the first place, leaving that text (and thus themselves also, whenever leaning upon that) bereft of standing as authoritative, and so would need to turn elsewhere.

Toss the premises aside which gave standing for the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution becomes just another instruction manual that was produced by government ---making it out to be that our rights are not inalienable for having been bestowed upon man by "Nature's God", as the founder's of this nation wrote of that entity--- but instead that our rights are derived and "bestowed" upon us by the largess of government itself.

That was not the framer's intent.

586 posted on 02/15/2016 8:32:17 PM PST by BlueDragon (TheHildbeast is so bad, purty near anybody should beat her. And that's saying something)
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To: TLR

I am concerned about the nastiness of the Trump supporters on the site.


You are sadly mistaken if you think Trump supporters have cornered the nastiness market. Saturday nite, a thread I was shut down due to Cruz supporters...


587 posted on 02/15/2016 8:33:53 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (h)
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To: bushwon

I’m concerned about the idiocy of Trump supporters.

I’m not coming here as much. I’ll be back after Cruz wins SC.


588 posted on 02/15/2016 8:36:52 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: bushwon; OneVike

Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn’t too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.
Seriously? You spent the weekend culling thru the posts of Trump supporters? Are you putting them into an EXCEL spreadsheet to use against them down the line during the primary?

Did you note the owner has said good things about Trump?

A lot of the Trump supporters actually have been here a lot longer than 8 years (and frankly, 8 years is a pretty long time IMHO).

We all know this is an open forum, but I doubt most of us suspect a fellow Freeper would be viewing and categorizing our posting history. Seriously! It is something I would expect from the NSA, not a fellow Freeper! It is intrusive!

Though I am sure that my reply to you will now land me on some future search list of yours, you should know that I REALLY FIND THIS VERY CREEPY OF YOU, and I think you need to go find a hobby.


And I should add that the “Bizzarro World” is that in addition to your data collection, all through the thread, you think you are taking the high ground whilst judging everyone else.


589 posted on 02/15/2016 8:39:09 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (h)
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To: fireman15

“They have done a lot that we are proud of, but I hope that we are not judged too often by their screw-ups.”

All of us hope that!


590 posted on 02/15/2016 8:39:54 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: altura

Have a nice time :)


591 posted on 02/15/2016 8:40:08 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (h)
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To: bushwon

Get over yourself. You are not important. never even checked yours.

besides, it was a fairly easy thing to do.


592 posted on 02/15/2016 10:54:38 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: CodeToad

You obviously don’t know me nor read what I wrote.


593 posted on 02/15/2016 11:00:46 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: BlueDragon

LOL, I remember the episode of Granny running for Possum Queen.


594 posted on 02/15/2016 11:05:50 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: altura

Thanks for the support, and I well understand the weariness of dealing with cultists.


595 posted on 02/15/2016 11:07:01 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: JSDude1
That is highly commendable. What is lacking across the full spectrum is active protest against things that are not going well. There is no outrage when appropriate. That is how we got to where we are now.

Our elected officials for whom we actually help elect rarely represent us in Congress.

596 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:37 AM PST by GingisK
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To: bushwon; TLR

The nastiness is pervasive across this site. I’ve been a member of FR quite a while now and it does get a bit heated around the elections, but what I’ve seen now is beyond reason for Free Republic.

Trump AND Cruz are splitting the conservative base.

I wish we could all take a step back and observe what all this vitriol between us is actually doing. It isn’t good.


597 posted on 02/16/2016 6:11:11 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Slyfox
I did not trust him from the get go.

After watching the movie...it appears to me...He has not changed a lick.

Lie, cheat, make things up, when caught laugh it off...

Threaten to sue..when you don't get your way. Buy people off...

Take it right to the line..and over the line.

Does not care about people...unless they have something to give to him...or something he wants.

Trojan Horse?....yep could be.

598 posted on 02/16/2016 8:30:33 AM PST by Osage Orange (Nowadays we are just Central America with snow.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

You have a problem with reading comprehension I see.

I did not like Romney, but 4 years ago you probably did since Trump and Romney have the same past record of what they supported.

See, I knew Romney would lose, and he did.

Trump is in many ways like Romney, but while Romney was met with universal dislike here, Trump being the same kind of man is not.

I am consistent, I dislike both for the same reason. They are liberals trying to be conservatives.


599 posted on 02/16/2016 9:02:40 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: spacejunkie2001
I will note, when reading through the posts almost every pro Trump post is bitter, angry, attacking, accusing.

Yes, I agree. They seem to be wishing him into being their guy more than he is. Just too many things about the guy that really scares me.

I do believe we are in the end times, whether it come in 10 years or 100. In the vast scheme of things even 100 years is like a nano second.

When I hear Trump I hear the same kind of rhetoric I heard from Obama and tens of millions bought into it. Well, now we have our Obama, and his name is Trump.

What really disturbs me is I am connected with hundreds of good born again Christians who know the word and always converse with me about it. However, many like Trump, or they re undecided and keep saying they lean to Ted Cruz but are not sure and they keep saying they like what they hear from Trump.

Talk about scratching those itchy ears. That is what Trump is doing, and they are falling asleep to his rhetoric like a dog in your lap when you scratch their ears.

Every time I read a Christian posting things they like about Trump, I am reminded of Paul's warning to Timothy about scratching those itchy ears.


600 posted on 02/16/2016 9:07:02 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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