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3 Questions for Freepers-especially the "old timers"
2/7/2016 | icwhatudo

Posted on 02/07/2016 4:12:15 PM PST by icwhatudo

Been here since 98, which is why I don't toss out the "I've been here longer so shut up" tactic that sadly has reared its head a lot lately. When I try it- some class of 97 guy kicks my arse and calls me noob. (yeah, old joke but I laugh)

Been lurking more than posting lately but wonder where we all stand on things in this race and on Free Republic.

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1. Betweeen Cruz, Rubio, and Trump only...please list in order of preference if they were your only choices for president.

2. Are the current flame wars on Free Republic the same we always see during a presidential primary season or worse?

3. Of these 5 issues only: Abortion, Homosexual Marriage, Illegal immigration, Muslim refugees, Obamacare... please list in order of most important to stop to least important. (Least important in no way means "not important". Even if an issue is #5 on THIS list, its may still be #5 out of 100 issues for you. Im just comparing to these other 4 for perspective.)

After answering straight up, feel free to comment and explain. Thanks!


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To: icwhatudo

Undecided, except I would never vote for Rubio or Bush.
Like many here, I don’t like the infighting between the candidates and the Freeper community. I no longer spend hours reading here, but minutes. I see too many quoting left wing sources, such as Salon and Huffington.
The five issues are all important to me.


41 posted on 02/07/2016 4:36:42 PM PST by pnut22
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To: icwhatudo

1. Cruz, Trump, Blank
2. Worse
3. Muslim Refugees, Illegal immigration, Abortion, Obamacare, Homosexual Marriage.


42 posted on 02/07/2016 4:37:02 PM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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To: icwhatudo

I was Trump, Cruz.

But all the vitriol of the Trump supporters not just here but on several other sites I post on, combined with Trump’s letist-style attacks on Cruz made me switch.

Now I’m Cruz, Trump.

Rubio is not on the list. I WILL vote third party if the GOPe shoves him down our throats like they did Romney and McCain.

I don’t care how Rush tries to defend him and the tramp Megyyyyyn Kelley. Rubio is RINO.

Defending the US Constitution is first and foremost for me.

I want a president that will undo Obammie-the-Commie’s illegal and unconstitutional actions.

Defending the borders is defending the USC.
Defending the US is defending the USC.
Limiting the powers of the federal government is defending the USC.
Separation of powers is defending the USC.
Defending the individual’s right to practice their religion how they see fit as long as it does not include violence or the call to violence is defending the USC.

Right now, I think Cruz is the strongest on these points. However, I don’t think he can win the general election.

Trump has proven himself that he is a good fighter. However, saying he likes Pelosi and Reid and Schmucky Schumer and get “work deals” with them turned me against him.


43 posted on 02/07/2016 4:37:26 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
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To: icwhatudo
1. It's a secret ballot and I'm keeping it close to the jerkin. I'm afraid that my man Yeb! is out, though (sobbing)...

2. About the same as any Presidential race, but I do think the maturity level has decreased a bit this time around. The passion is probably due to two very different and very viable candidates on the Republican side. When you recall that the major passion in '08 was for a Vice Presidential candidate it becomes a little clearer. Giuliani sent in a few too many, or rather too blatant pros onto the site during that campaign and a number of them got Zapped in that epochal thread. Took some good FReepers with them when they went.

3. It varies day to day. At the moment 0bamacare, illegal immigration, Muslim refugees, Abortion, Homosexual marriage, but that shuffles around. I'd suggest gun control be considered for the mix because it's still on the 0bama "legacy" agenda. Also maybe the high degree of corruption and incompetence in the most senior members of the sitting administration.

I'll turn 18 in FReeper years come September. Seems like only yesterday...

44 posted on 02/07/2016 4:37:47 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: icwhatudo

Cruz, Trump, Rubio

Looks a bit ‘warmer’ for being this early, but...

Illegal immigration, 0bamacare, muslim refugees, homosexual marriage, abortion.


45 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:26 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: icwhatudo

1. Cruz, Cruz, and Cruz.

2. Wouldn’t know, haven’t been here that long. The Palin wars were bad.

3. Abortion, Illegal Immigration, Muslim Refugees, Homosexual Marriage, Obamacare

Peace,

SR


46 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:49 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: icwhatudo

Trump , Trump and Trump

Same

Illegal Immigration , Muslim refugees , Abortion , Obamacare , Homo marriage


47 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:56 PM PST by sushiman
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To: icwhatudo
Cruz only.

Class of 03

Worst BS ever.

Trumpf***s tearing down the the most conservative candidate in the race is absolutely effing disgusting. F Y all! Abortion, Illegal Immigration, Muslims, Obamacare, Homos.

48 posted on 02/07/2016 4:39:44 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: icwhatudo

Started posting in 2000.

Cruz, Trump then with hesitation, Rubio.

About the same as 2008.

Borders (covers immigration and refugees), and the rest are about equal.


49 posted on 02/07/2016 4:39:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: icwhatudo

1. Cruz, Rubio, probably not vote is Trump is the nominee
2. Same
3. Abortion, Muslim Refugees, Homosexual Marriage, Illegal Immigration, Obamacare

I do not view Trump as being any better than Bernie or Hillary. He agrees with Bernie on trade and (too recently for my comfort) Hillary and Bernie, both, on partial birth abortion. He does not believe in traditional marriage. His position on eminent domain is a show stopper for me all by itself. He wants to tax the rich more. You cannot trust what he says.


50 posted on 02/07/2016 4:39:56 PM PST by chapman55k
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To: icwhatudo
1. Cruz, Trump (equal enthusiasm for both, but for different reasons. And no Rubio at all.)

2. The current flame wars on Free Republic are about the same as always. The seemingly greater intensity is probably due to there being a more pronounced two-way split, rather than three or more equal factions.

3. Muslim refugees, Illegal immigration (plenty of overlap there), Obamacare, Abortion, Homosexual marriage.

51 posted on 02/07/2016 4:40:14 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: icwhatudo

Class of 2000, but I lurked for a couple of years before that.

1. Cruz, Trump, Rubio

2. Flame wars are always bad, but I think they are more vulgar this year... disappointing.

3. Illegal immigration, Muslim refugees, Abortion, Homosexual Marriage, Obamacare

I am in SC and have met Ted Cruz in person and heard him speak twice. I am so impressed that he doesn’t waver in his beliefs and principles. I have friends working on his SC campaign and have heard such great things about him.

If Ted doesn’t make it, I will vote for just about anyone I have to in order to keep a democrat/socialist out of the White House.


52 posted on 02/07/2016 4:40:29 PM PST by Amanda King
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To: icwhatudo

those arguing you do not deserve a voice are the types who will voting for the oldtimers in the Democrat party.

I would ignore them. I always do.


53 posted on 02/07/2016 4:41:50 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: icwhatudo

1. Cruz, Trump . . . (third party as a protest vote) . . . Rubio (maybe, and that only if someone holds a gun to my head)

2. Slightly worse from both sides on the Cruz/Trump flames, which is generally harmful to both sides.

3. Illegal immigration, Muslim Refugees, Obamacare, Abortion, Homosexual Marriage.

Amnesty will lead to far more votes for democrats which will lead to socialism in the immediate future. That makes Rubio and Bush completely unacceptable.

While abortion and gay marriage are important, the next president will not directly control those. The real question there is Supreme Court appointments. I’d like to see President Cruz personally researching and appointing strict constructionists after he wins. I’d love to see President Trump appoint Cruz to the Supreme Court.


54 posted on 02/07/2016 4:42:22 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: icwhatudo

!. Cruz

2. Trump

3. Rubio

I think Cruz is stellar and I despise the trash being dished on him here at FR.

He successful argued for the execution of an illegal immigrant murderer in the state of Texas in front of the Supreme Court. His opponent was the administration of Georege W. Bush. Cruz beat Bush at the Supreme Court on a core illegal immigration issue.

If that were all he had done, I would say it would be more than Crhistie or Rubio and yes Trump. The man knows the constitution like he is on steroids. I wide range of legal issues which have been structured by the Left to destroy our civil liberties: separation of church and state, Citizens United, immigration implosion are all empirically confronted and won by Cruz.

We are blessed that someone got an advanced IVY league education and instead of selling out like Roberts, decided to become a sincere warrior for our cause.

No one comes close and I could go on and on and on and on— some have seen that here.

This is not close.

Please stop personally attacking Cruz. If for some weird reason you do not prefer him, I think you should stop pretending he is evil and personally despicable. That is cheap shot garbage.


55 posted on 02/07/2016 4:43:17 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: icwhatudo
1. Cruz, Rubio, Trump.

2. Same.

3. Abortion, Muslim Refugees, Illegal immigration, Homosexual Marriage, Obamacare.

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I live in Arizona, so things will probably be pretty well decided by the time it's my turn to vote. I dislike Trump personally-- I think he's an arrogant jerk and a phony-- and based on his past I don't trust him to deliver, but he's a force to be reckoned with because he's saying what people want to hear. I like Cruz and his positions, but I feel he comes across as unlikable-- and in the presidential race which is in large part a popularity contest, that could hurt him in the general. Rubio's alright. I think he generally comes across as likable, but he's got some self-redeeming to do after last night but, really, I'd vote for any of them if they were the nominee.

56 posted on 02/07/2016 4:43:32 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Amanda King
Class of '02

I was 1) Cruz 2) Paul and 3) Carson
Now I am 1) Cruz. I find both Rubio and Trump unsatisfactory.

57 posted on 02/07/2016 4:45:57 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: reed13k

1.I need to see more of Trump and Cruz. I like them both for different reasons. No 3rd choice, knew too much about Rubio since much earlier in the primary process.

Muslims refugees, Obamacare, Homosexual Marriage, Illegal migration, abortion


58 posted on 02/07/2016 4:46:18 PM PST by fingers_crossed
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To: icwhatudo
Cruz, Rubio, Trump

Same old same old: unless DJT drops out, which will kick it up a couple notches

Muslim refugees, Obamacare, Illegal Immigration, Abortion, Homosexual Marriage

59 posted on 02/07/2016 4:50:38 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Trump can't decide whether he's Ronald Reagan or Huey Long.)
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To: icwhatudo

1. Trump; Cruz; Carson

2. More intense because we now have at least one viable candidate who we can trust to do what he promises out of love for this country. The republicans and democrats don’t like this.

3. (a)Our country comes first or we won’t survive.
(b)Muslims are trying to take over our country’s law structure by bringing in refugees who have no interest in assimilating to live peacefully beside us.
(c)The democrats and republicans have evolved into a one party monopoly with the democrats running the show and republicans blindly following them into socialism.
(d)Obamacare and the attacks on the 2nd amendment are proof that (c) above is true.

Thanks for this post.


60 posted on 02/07/2016 4:52:41 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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