Posted on 02/07/2016 1:20:20 PM PST by Little Bill
I have been reading History since I was in the Fourth Grade thus destroying any hope of an Academic Future.
About 17 years ago I ran across a web page about what happened in 3200 BC and the birth of Civilization as we know it. Cool.
Lately I have seen posts on the GGG thread about the Sea People and the death of the Old Kingdom. It seemed to me rather strange that the Old Kingdom croaked in the same time frame as the Sargonite Empire in the two rives area and the sea people occurred at the time of general collapse of civilization in the Near East.
So I started looking at the time line of civilizations and there seems to be a nasty thousand year up and down cycle.
This cycle is more or less in time but seems real, to me any way.
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This might be of interest: http://gizmodo.com/all-hail-histomap-4-000-years-of-history-in-a-single-p-1109857517
It shows only the last 4000 years of what we think we know of civilization. But it is interesting.
Read any Robert Temple?
Also dating Egyptian Old Kingdom is an extremely unreliable base to infer a cycle of some periodicity.
WB Yeats’ Vision as well as Giambattista Vico would be of interest, perhaps....
I read his translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh, may still have it in my book collection, disorder.
Here are some of his books. He is, in case you are unaware a science historian and Egyptologist.
No aliens.
A good bit of
“The Egyptian Dawn” and “The Sphinx Mystery” are online as well as lots of images he & his wife took while at various sites many of the images are from sites closed to tourists and undocumented. They were granted access to the Valley Temple and the Sphinx Temple.
Egyptian Dawn (The Old Kingdom and how it is dated - includes results of his optical biothermolucence dating of several sites above and below ground.)
http://www.egyptiandawn.info/chapter1.html
Sphinx Mystery (What the Sphinx may really be and why it was created)
http://sphinxmystery.com/
Crystal Sun (Uses of lenses in Old Kingdom and prior)
http://www.robert-temple.com/crystalSunMain.html
Civilizations take centuries to build, and only a generation to destroy.
Obama would say: “Civilizations take centuries to build, and only eight years to destroy.”
Round about 3000 BC the bronze age ended and the iron age began accompanied by the disappearance of several major areas of civilization and a large reduction in population.
Thank you for that link. I actually saw that chat in s High School history class room... How education has changed.
I was thinking along the line of T.E. Lawrence’s Brough Superior.
I have looked around can’t find any thing about this in the non nut job world...
And you are looking for answers here?
This place is swarming with nut jobs driven insane
by political campaigning.
Hardly recognize the place.
That is the truth.
We have a handful of 24/7 posters here just relentless with Trump worship and Cruz demonization.
If you had told me a year ago that I could bet a dollar to win a hundred that Jim would allow this nonsense, I would not have risked a buck.
Forget the Go Pat Go crowd in ‘99, drove me off for a while.
There is some recent research tying the rise and fall of civilizations with climate cycles. The global warming thing isn’t new, and it actually leads to civilization flourishing. It’s the onset of the colder times when civilizations crash.
I believe that the traditional Chinese dynastic cycle is ~300 years, and there are similar cycles in Europe, India, and Mesopotamia. There are both social and climatic reasons for this cycle, and it is often weather events that are the trigger for the dynastic collapse.
An important note to any studies of cycles is that classical civilizations were frequently shattered by “hill tribes” who would replace the prior ruling classes. This would change in areas under European influence after the fifteenth century. The forces in Europe that pushed this change were technologies that made infantry dominant to cavalry (most of the “hill tribes” were actually steppe nomads), and the European habit of converting and making those tribes men from marginal lands part of the civilization.
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