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Donald Trump lost Iowa and perhaps the nomination because he was cheap [vanity]

Posted on 02/02/2016 4:11:20 PM PST by springwater13

Trump clearly had the votes to win Iowa but he didn't put the boots on the ground to get out the vote. Cruz had an epic ground game with 10,000 volunteers, data analytics, SUPER PACS, etc. It's amazing that Trump still came within a few percentage points on a shoestring operation. That's to Trump's credit but he still lost.

The Cruz campaign's pollster said Trump's numbers in the public polls were buoyed by a group of voters who do not typically vote in the caucuses but were strongly attached to Trump. These unlikely regular caucus voters needed a push. Trump did not have the infrastructure.

The depressing thing is if Trump didn't want to self-fund tens of millions of dollars for infrastructure comparable to Cruz, all he really had to do was ask. He could have easily asked for small dollar donations at his website. Asking his supporters to invest in his campaign and still kept his credibility against Super-PACS and special interests/lobbyists. A $20 donation isn't going to influence him.


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To: spacejunkie2001
I don't think the issue is cheap, I think it's arrogance.

Well of course you do.

Maybe, just maybe, Trump is saving his money while cruz blew through most of his money in Iowa. Cruz's goldman sachs funded PACs also spent a ton of money there. Add to that, prior to last night, no republican candidate ever got more votes in the Iowa primary then Trump. That's what I call getting value.
41 posted on 02/02/2016 4:27:36 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: Catsrus

oh, he was expecting it. he’s a winner ya know


42 posted on 02/02/2016 4:27:42 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

He did ? I thought it was excellent and he sounded very presidential.


43 posted on 02/02/2016 4:27:59 PM PST by erlayman (yw)
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To: Psalm 144

or he just hangs around and doesn’t spend much money and hopes for the best

that will be the one.

we’ll see what happens. he’s up big in NH


44 posted on 02/02/2016 4:29:06 PM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I disagree. Brokered convention relies on the delegates from the states, the ones attached to vote totals, voting for your guy after the first ballot. Jeb has spent all of his time and $ on media. No grassroots ground game to get “his” people elected as delegates to state and national convention.

By the way, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Rubio lead this “hidden” race for delegates.


45 posted on 02/02/2016 4:29:28 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: nickcarraway

He’s not stupid enough to spend his own money on the campaign. And he really doesn’t have enough money to do the full presidential campaign. Yeah
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Trump never said he would bankroll the whole campaign, just the GOP nomination. If Trump wins the nomination, the Republican party then pays for the campaign.


46 posted on 02/02/2016 4:32:56 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: springwater13
Iowa caucus delegate allocation.....

8 - Cruz
7 - Trump
6 - Rubio
1 - Carson, Paul, Kasich,
    Bush, Fiorina, Huckabee
0 - Christie, Santorum



47 posted on 02/02/2016 4:33:37 PM PST by deport
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To: JoSixChip

Cruz campaign has $19 million on hand. That’s the campaign, not the SuperPaCs.


48 posted on 02/02/2016 4:33:47 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: springwater13
It's amazing that Trump still came within a few percentage points on a shoestring operation

ROFLOL!!!!!

Good try!!

49 posted on 02/02/2016 4:34:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (Nowadays we are just Central America with snow.)
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To: springwater13
Like Romney, Trump overestimated how popular he was and how easy it was going to be for him, so he didn't invest in what we all now have to call "the ground game."

Ted Cruz knew how just unpopular he could be with people, so he paid the extra bucks for a quality campaign. #Revengeofthenerds

50 posted on 02/02/2016 4:35:01 PM PST by x
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To: napscoordinator
Yes lets be like Cruz who will take money for anything to get ahead. Wonderful. That is all we need a guy who will do anything for money.

Post some examples.....

If you can...

51 posted on 02/02/2016 4:35:40 PM PST by Osage Orange (Nowadays we are just Central America with snow.)
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To: dp0622

“or he just hangs around and doesn’t spend much money and hopes for the best”

That won’t cut it. If he did that, he would fade fast and be forever damaged by this. He might do that, but I would be surprised.

Generally speaking politicians are loathsome animals, but successful ones do have an amazing talent for taking rejection. Perhaps that is why so many are sociopaths. He is grappling with the first time proof that many people dislike him in a way that can hurt him. He is new to this. We’ll see if he has the fortitude to continue.

He should pick up the telephone and talk to Sarah, who has dealt with the gloating hatred of cretins for a very long time, usually with aplomb.


52 posted on 02/02/2016 4:36:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (This primary is raw Americana! Tom Sawyer versus Sid!)
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To: springwater13

Yup he’s down 1 delegate:

https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=tEWxVt39CuqD8QfTjLf4Dw#q=2016+presidential+primaries&eob=R/2/short/m.09c7w0/


53 posted on 02/02/2016 4:36:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: dp0622

I’ve wondered about this since Trump’s cheapness is legendary. Given his behavior in Iowa, I don’t think he has any intentions of spending the money necessary to run a wire to wire campaign. At least not from his own bank account. He’s in a fix. He wants to maintain his independence from large donors but won’t spend his own $$.


54 posted on 02/02/2016 4:36:56 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: springwater13

The biggest mistake Trump made was to focus so much on Iowa & dirty himself up in the process. He should of waltz in the last couple weeks like Rubio did. A NH win would take some of the sting away, but Trump may have problem winning SC.


55 posted on 02/02/2016 4:37:07 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: Mase

it’s a tough spot


56 posted on 02/02/2016 4:38:39 PM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: calisurfer

Would the pay for Hillary’s campaign too?


57 posted on 02/02/2016 4:39:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JoSixChip

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

makin it up as you go along


58 posted on 02/02/2016 4:39:36 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Moorings
just the fact that Cruz won the state gives him headlines,visibility and perceived strength.

Are you not paying attention? Rubio is the one getting all the headlines, visibility and perceived strength. Cruz can't even capitalize on a win, but then it was what by 4%. Hardly a runaway victory.
59 posted on 02/02/2016 4:39:53 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: calisurfer

It seems to me Obama raised $1 billion in 2008. But Trump hasn’t tried to do that.


60 posted on 02/02/2016 4:40:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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