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Trump's claim that Dems would challenge Cruz's eligibility on firm ground
The Washington Examiner ^ | 1/15/2016 | SEAN HIGGINS

Posted on 01/15/2016 12:16:55 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Donald Trump defended his argument that his Republican presidential rival Sen. Ted Cruz should not be the GOP nominee because he was not born inside the U.S. by arguing that Democrats would mount a legal challenge to his eligibility for office.

"I am not bringing a suit, but the Democrats are going to be filing a lawsuit," Trump warned during Thursday's night's debate on Fox Business.

The Texas senator laughed off the argument, saying that there was no legal question that he was eligible. Noting that he was a constitutional lawyer who has argued cases before the Supreme Court, he said he was "not taking legal advice from Donald Trump."

However, Trump's claim that Democrats would mount a challenge regarding Cruz's eligibility is plausible. At least one, Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., has already said he would do exactly that. Other Democrats and liberal thought leaders appear to be warming to the idea.

"Technically, he's not even an American... The Constitution says natural-born Americans, so now we're counting Canadians as natural-born Americans? How does that work?" Grayson told radio host Alan Colmes in November. "I'm waiting for the moment that he gets the nomination and then I will file that beautiful lawsuit saying that he's unqualified for the job because he's ineligible."

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To: Texas Fossil

I’m not going to argue all those situations. They’re not part of the discussion unless and until one of them is accepted as the true story. What’s relevant is that it’s generally accepted that Obama was born in the USA and that’s how the Natural Born Citizenship issues are fended off.


21 posted on 01/15/2016 2:19:29 AM PST by grania
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To: grania
Obama was granted a US birth certificate at the time of his birth.

Do you honestly believe that?

22 posted on 01/15/2016 2:22:34 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Trump is the only Democrat who can win. What a clever trick the Dems pulled to have him run as a pubbie. They new last year about hillarys legal problems... Trump is a democratic plant. Nasty but smart tactic.


23 posted on 01/15/2016 2:26:07 AM PST by momincombatboots (Iraq 3.0.. Try and look surprised. Prayers for my brothers and sisters in arms as global pawns.)
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To: Eagles6
,I>Obama was granted a US birth certificate at the time of his birth. Do you honestly believe that?

What we believe isn't relevant. The fact that it's accepted and was deemed necessary is.

24 posted on 01/15/2016 2:29:51 AM PST by grania
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To: Hugin

Trump has improved in the debates but he is still better in one-on-one interviews and paradoxically also better in his rally speeches. Trump has improved his debate performances but in the debates you are still not seeing The Best of Trump.


25 posted on 01/15/2016 2:33:24 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: samtheman

Not surprising considering he never did a debate in his life before the first one. Still his poll numbers have just gone up after each debate.


26 posted on 01/15/2016 2:49:55 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: John Valentine
The Founders would never have countenanced our nation being marched around by some other country's laws.

They'd never have countenanced our President being marched around by some other country's laws.

27 posted on 01/15/2016 2:55:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I really hope that everyone finally realized just how desperate Trump truly is./ Like Cruz said the only thing that has changed since September are the poll numbers.


28 posted on 01/15/2016 2:57:28 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
They'd never have countenanced our President being marched around by some other country's laws.

Precisely. It's good to see that you are coming around to my point of view.

29 posted on 01/15/2016 3:04:59 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: grania
I’m not going to argue all those situations. They’re not part of the discussion unless and until one of them is accepted as the true story. What’s relevant is that it’s generally accepted that Obama was born in the USA and that’s how the Natural Born Citizenship issues are fended off.

So, you are not one of the Natural Born Citizenship purists that insist that BOTH parents must be US citizens in order for their child to be an NBC.

30 posted on 01/15/2016 3:08:57 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Hugin

No one wins in New York Real-Estate jungle without being super intelligent. Especially a developer of buildings. One has to weave a path through local regulations, unions and liberal politicians.


31 posted on 01/15/2016 3:10:47 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: verga

You project frequently?


32 posted on 01/15/2016 3:11:35 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: John Valentine

No, John, I’m not. If the President is legitimately subject to legal action under another jurisdiction then that President is compromised on the international stage, and the interests of the US are compromised in turn.


33 posted on 01/15/2016 3:12:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Jonty30
This is one of the reason that I don't think Cruz was planning to win this time around. I think his long-term plan was to put this issue upfront and now and, if the courts ruled in his favor, run in 2020 and win.

It's a raising his profile this time around.


No way for me safely to judge TC's intent for 2016, but what you say regarding 2020 turned on my light bulb and I see how it could be a splendid side-benefit for Cruz' run for the Presidency then.
34 posted on 01/15/2016 3:15:16 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: John Valentine
I don't think that part, the two parents being US citizens, was pursued. I thought birthers were brought in the wrong direction, not pursuing the established fact that the dad was not a US citizen. Instead they got played into putting everything with trying to prove that birth certificate is false.

They should not have done that unless they had physical possession of a Kenyan birth certificate.

So, yeah, I think they messed up, but it can be recouped because there was no court case about the parentage. I certainly don't want Obama's situation to be precedent for anything.

35 posted on 01/15/2016 3:16:14 AM PST by grania
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To: GeaugaRepublican

I have no doubt the Democrats would cause chaos at election time with this matter if Cruz is the candidate. It would be worse than the 2000 fiasco. They are not like the Republicans, who never called obama to account for his sealed past. Trump knows this.


36 posted on 01/15/2016 3:17:16 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: entropy12
You project frequently?

Only the truth. Cruz's numbers are rising and Trump is a desperate. Why did Trump say that it was a non-issue in September but now all of a sudden it is a n issue?

37 posted on 01/15/2016 3:18:30 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Obama admits he was born in Kenya!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k

More evidence:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2012/05/17/the-vetting-barack-obama-literary-agent-1991-born-in-kenya-raised-indonesia-hawaii/

So where was RNC??????

President Trump’s Justice dept. may investigate.


38 posted on 01/15/2016 3:18:55 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: verga
Come on, that is common sense & practical thing to do. Why bother spending time on a low polling candidate? Actually Trump is ahead in practically every state, by comfortable margins except Iowa, a Caucus state, where less than 3% voters will caucus in GOP caucuses. And Trump wants to win Iowa!


39 posted on 01/15/2016 3:22:44 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

It’s like radioactive polonium. It will slowly poison the Cruz campaign.


40 posted on 01/15/2016 3:26:31 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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