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Trump Accuses Cruz of Supporting Amnesty (As Trump Used To Do)
News Machete ^ | 1/8/2016 | Ed Straker

Posted on 01/08/2016 4:32:22 PM PST by conservativejoy

In his latest unfounded attack on Ted Cruz, Donald Trump now accuses Ted Cruz of supporting amnesty for illegal aliens, as Trump himself did for many years.

Ted Cruz tried to derail Marco Rubio's "Gang of 8" amnesty bill by altering the "path to citizenship" to mere legalization status, not because he supported legalization for illegals, but rather because he wanted to make the bill unpalatable to Democrats.

Senator Jeff Sessions, who was the lead opponent of this legislation, supports this interpretation, saying Cruz was "with him every step of the way on fighting the amnesty bill". So agrees Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, and most leading conservative voices. So if if Donald Trump is right, all the leading voices of the conservative movement must be wrong. At a certain point you have to start wondering who is really a constitutional conservative, and who is not.

Trump also repeated the false claim that he's been calling for a border wall for five years. In fact, Ted Cruz was the one calling for it several years ago, not Donald Trump. And if you look back four years, Trump was criticizing Mitt Romney's self deportation plan for illegals, calling it "mean-spirited", and as recently as this past June was still calling for a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.

In fact, by saying that he will deport illegals but invite a lot of them back in, Trump still effectively supports legalization for millions of illegal aliens in the United States. Just listen to his own words:

"I think we should let them come back if they are very good people, let them come back legally, I want them to come back. I'm building a wall but I want immigrants to come in... and I want a lot of people to come in."

Donald Trump loses credibility when he claims Ted Cruz supports amnesty when he himself, for most of his adult life, has supported amnesty for illegal aliens. It shows he will say anything to get elected. It becomes particularly egregious when he accuses others of things that he himself is guilty of.

We need a true conservative to be elected President. That isn't Donald Trump.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: amnesty; canadian; cruz; h1b; trump
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Um, wasn't I just reading where Trumps son said the Donald's plan had always included letting all the people he deported back in legally..............isn't that kinda sorta maybe oh I don't know, amnesty when you come right down to it?

This is fun!!

21 posted on 01/08/2016 5:05:54 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: conservativejoy

Meh


22 posted on 01/08/2016 5:08:24 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Mastador1

Letting ALL the people? No, you never read that.


23 posted on 01/08/2016 5:08:49 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: conservativejoy

Trump did years ago, Cruz did months ago.


24 posted on 01/08/2016 5:09:40 PM PST by heights
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To: grania
Except for Senator Sessions, it seems that no one gets to the US Senate or a Governor election unless they've been compromised on this issue.

Concurring bump...and you can hear the Koch brothers et al whining about their lack of influence.

Citizen Trump brings the sunlight and the disinfectant...

25 posted on 01/08/2016 5:15:25 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

That’s what It looks like to me too. People think Trump is random and our of control. I think he’s exactly the opposite.


26 posted on 01/08/2016 5:18:08 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: heights

Got a reference for that?


27 posted on 01/08/2016 5:19:52 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: WENDLE

“Cruz actually did have a pathway to citizenship in a poison pill amendment to RINIO/SCHUMER’s amnesty for illegal alien bill. It was tactical and it is forgiven.”<p.

Not true, Cruz offered legalization with no pathway to citizenship. That poison pill exposed that the Democrats were supporting amnesty, and nothing less.


28 posted on 01/08/2016 5:21:58 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy
Not true, Cruz offered legalization with no pathway to citizenship. That poison pill exposed that the Democrats were supporting amnesty, and nothing less.

Its no use, they do not want to know.

29 posted on 01/08/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Maybe youshould read what you say I didn't read than, hmmmmm? http://www.redstate.com/diary/southernconstitutionalist/2015/12/06/eric-trump-my-dads-immigration-plan-includes-amnesty-after-deportation/

Oh, I bet you're gonna say but he's not gonna let the criminal criminals back in, right?

You know I'm not committed to Cruz or Trump in particular right now, but I still want to play the game the rest of you are.

30 posted on 01/08/2016 5:38:59 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“And for about 9 months, Cruz refused to take legalization off the table when directly asked, until Rubio put him on the spot.”

And then he did it with lawyer talk: “It is not my intention” or something like that.


31 posted on 01/08/2016 5:41:06 PM PST by odawg
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To: conservativejoy

Thanks. Disappointed in Trump. I’ve never heard Cruz say that he favored amnesty.


32 posted on 01/08/2016 6:44:04 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: grania
"I trust Trump more than they others."

Well, I don't blame you.

He's been a lifelong progressive, but he's been "conservative" for seven months. He doesn't have one accomplishment for the cause of conservatism to point to, and he never talks about the Constitution, or liberty, or small government.

His flip-flops outnumber Romney's; he's caught in a lie or other statement that reveals his core progressivism about once a week.

But, yeah. He's trustworthy.

I swear, there really is one born every minute.

33 posted on 01/08/2016 7:22:03 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: CatherineofAragon

The Millenial’s Ross Perot.


34 posted on 01/08/2016 8:16:20 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: cport

Except he can say “You people” and get away with it...


35 posted on 01/08/2016 8:17:40 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Hillary sez, “Run, Donald Perot, run!”


36 posted on 01/08/2016 8:19:35 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Mastador1

I saw that thread before; misleading headline, and saw no comments about “all” bringing back in. Trump has said repeatedly that only the ones we want or need, the “excellent” ones, will be allowed in after a “process.”

It shields Trump also from the inevitable attacks in the general election, where little baby illegal aliens with PhDs will be crying about how evil Trump is.

I’m perfectly okay with this solution.


37 posted on 01/08/2016 8:33:40 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: conservativejoy
Path to Legal Status for Illegals

Cheap Foreign Workers on H1-B visa

Pushing TPP

38 posted on 01/08/2016 8:56:23 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: bramps

See post #38. Believe your own eyes and ears.


39 posted on 01/08/2016 8:57:19 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: conservativejoy

As Rush says you can always tell who they fear most.


40 posted on 01/08/2016 9:04:31 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Cruz 2016)
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