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Lost Loves... a melancholy thread on Christmas Eve....
12/24/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 12/24/2015 4:17:26 PM PST by Lazamataz

On this Christmas eve, my mind drifts back to old, lost loves.... like the Sig Sauer P210 I got from Shotgun news. This legendary pistol, made in 1959, I managed to get at a STEAL from some Swiss Army decommission imports for a mere 700 dollars, somewhere in the very late 1990's.

I received the firearm. and while I loved the action and the crisp dropoff of the trigger, I hated some of the 1950's ergonomics. The magazine release was on the butt of the grip, for example. The safety was oddly-placed.

I took a fatal decision. I decided this clockwork-like masterpiece, this Swiss-engineered marvel, had no place in my collection. I regret this decision, and will to my dying day.

I sold it to someone VERY eager to pick it up for 1500 dollars. I should have wondered why he was so eager. Now I know.

This legendary shooter -- the most accurate out-of-the-box pistol in the WORLD -- is renowned and admired in pistol circles. The cheapest I could replace such a masterpiece for, is 3000 for a very used one, and 5000-6000 for one with my low serial number, and one in the condition mine was in (like new).

Women come and go, but PISTOLS... the loss of a good pistol can bring a man to tears.

Tonight, I cry.


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To: Lazamataz
I picked up a used SS colt python at a big box sports store for $350 around 1990. The cylinder and crown were blackened from lack of cleaning but it wasn't anything a little patience and elbow grease couldn't fix. It was a complete gem and I got it for a steal.

An unexpected expense came up a couple years later and it had to go. I got $650 for it and though that was a pretty good return on investment I miss it to this day. To add insult to injury the same gun today in the same condition is worth about 4k.

101 posted on 12/24/2015 8:06:48 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Texas Fossil
never saw the need to shoot mags when a .38 will do at the range on targets other than to be able to qualify with them for carry

targets don't know the difference

it's always good to have at least one auto around and you can't go wrong with the CZ

102 posted on 12/24/2015 8:07:13 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode
Ever come across an M1 made by International Harvester?


103 posted on 12/24/2015 8:12:46 PM PST by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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To: Viking2002

nope, these are the only mfgs i know of during WWII

i believe IH made them in the 50’s during the Korean war

Military contractors

Inland Division, General Motors (production: 2,632,097), sole producer of the M1A1 Carbine. Receiver marked “INLAND DIV.”

Winchester Repeating Arms (production: 828,059) Receiver marked “WINCHESTER”[88]

Irwin-Pedersen (operated by Saginaw Steering Gear and production included with Saginaw total)

Saginaw Steering Gear Division, General Motors (production: 517,213 ) Receivers marked “SAGINAW S.G.” (370,490) and “IRWIN-PEDERSEN” (146,723 )

Underwood Elliot Fisher (production: 545,616) Receiver marked “UNDERWOOD”

National Postal Meter (production: 413,017) Receiver marked “NATIONAL POSTAL METER”

Quality Hardware Manufacturing Corp. (production: 359,666) Receiver marked “QUALITY H.M.C.”

International Business Machines (production: 346,500) Receiver marked “I.B.M. CORP.” Also barrel marked “IBM Corp”

Standard Products (production: 247,100) Receiver marked “STD. PRO.”

Rock-Ola Manufacturing Corporation (production: 228,500) Receiver Marked “ROCK-OLA”[89]

Commercial Controls Corporation (production: 239) Receiver marked “COMMERCIAL CONTROLS”


104 posted on 12/24/2015 8:34:42 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Lazamataz

To have the feelings over an inanimate object as a beautiful girl....never mind. There are a few quotes I could mention here...never mind.


105 posted on 12/24/2015 9:16:25 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Chode

I appreciate your advice.

I’m weighing “do I really want to concealed carry” against “get concealed carry license so I can open carry”. Open carry with longer barreled pistol has some appeal to me.

I have never worked in Law Enforcement and turned 68 today, so don’t expect to.

Only time it might be important is traveling. Still considering that angle.

Like you said, 38 special reloaded is pretty cheap shooting. I do consider that.

Thanks again.


106 posted on 12/24/2015 9:54:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
Merry Christmas
107 posted on 12/24/2015 9:56:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode

And Merry Christmas to your and your family too.


108 posted on 12/24/2015 9:56:56 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Lazamataz

Iver Johnson, 36” barrel, tight as a drum. One shell, one shot, one goose. I still think about her, in mean it.


109 posted on 12/24/2015 10:40:14 PM PST by jstaff
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To: Fungi; Lazamataz

I saw the title and my mind also went to the guy I grieved over for YEARS.

Seriously, I only realized I was over him when I saw that he checked my LinkedIn profile a while back.

I took a little satisfaction in taking a peek at his Facebook page and noticed that he’d posted a picture of his wife and tried to pixalate/blur the wine glass out of her hand.

Him being in the ministry and all.


110 posted on 12/24/2015 10:44:57 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl (I would die before I worshipped the Muslim god. Why do you do so willingly?)
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To: Lazamataz

Back in 1981 I bought a Dan Wesson Model 15-2V (357 revolver) with 2.5, 4, and 6 inch barrels. I paid about $275 for the set. For some stupid reason I sold the thing in 1987. It is the only gun I have ever sold off and I regret it to this day. I am looking online to buy a used set and they are now going for upwards of $2000.


111 posted on 12/24/2015 11:30:50 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: goodwithagun
I’ve never told my husband no. Ever. It’s true. Every time he’s asked if he can buy a new gun I’ve always said yes. Eat your hearts out, boys!

When I started dating my now wife of 33+ years (we started dating over 37 years ago) I told her that the one thing I would NEVER compromise on was my hunting, fishing, and gun collecting. She does not like to hunt and rarely fishes but she likes to shoot and never complains or says no about my firearms purchases. I do say that I moderate all those things as I wanted to make sure she knew she was my priority and not second place in my life.

I must have done something right as she will see me stressed out from work and tell me to get out and fish, hunt, or get to a range and shoot. I guess I should keep her.

112 posted on 12/24/2015 11:46:56 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Chode

My uncle was a B-25 pilot in the 5th Air Force, Pacific Theater, during WWII. All crews had Colt 1911s and most of them also grabbed M1 Carbines and kept them on their planes.

He was shot down over China and spent six months running from the Japs and getting back to friendly lines. His whole crew made it back to American forces and returned to their group. He said that M1 Carbine saved his life several times.

My uncle got that carbine home and when he passed away my aunt gave it to me. It was made by IBM and will go to my son when I pass on.


113 posted on 12/25/2015 12:01:31 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Fungi
To have the feelings over an inanimate object as a beautiful girl....never mind. There are a few quotes I could mention here...never mind.

You have to have your priorities straight, like me.

114 posted on 12/25/2015 3:48:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Viking2002

I had a CMP International Harvester. Post-war production. A true Caddilac of a rifle! Wish I still had her. That was lost in a bad deal.


115 posted on 12/25/2015 3:50:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

PERFECT for conceal carry!


116 posted on 12/25/2015 3:55:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: carriage_hill

” I bought pallets of ....”

Very wise man my FRiend!
I’ve been playing catch up since 2005.
Now I’m caliber consolidating because I’ve found that multiple calibers is like having multiple mouths to feed.

My FFL buddy says the new WASR 10’s that Century has are even better than Arsenal’s. I may have to see :)
Merry Christmas!


117 posted on 12/25/2015 6:57:39 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: OldMissileer
OUTSTANDING!!! God bless Him, You and Yours... Merry Christmas
118 posted on 12/25/2015 7:32:47 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode

I just picked up a new weapon. It is the Remington Hindsight 20/20.

LOL


119 posted on 12/25/2015 7:42:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Lazamataz

I remember seeing those P210s, and thinking, I should get one!

Alas, I did not, and have regretted it.


120 posted on 12/25/2015 7:46:28 AM PST by marktwain
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