Posted on 12/19/2015 12:11:17 AM PST by wille777
Researchers, led by Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, claim they have evidence that Roman ships visited North America 'during the first century or earlier.'
Their theory centers on the discovery of what they believe to be a Roman sword on Oak Island, off Nova Scotia.
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It doesn’t look like any Roman sword I’ve seen. It appears to be bronze, Romans made their swords out of iron. I suppose it could be ceremonial or something, but then it could be fairly modern. Or just a fake.
It doesn’t mean the Romans brought it there.
Could have been brought by Vikings.
They must have read your post because now the article says it’s a ceremonial sword.
Ping........! :)
Now if they had found a pizza oven...
I like that show. Basically everybody was at that island at one time or another...I am still waiting to see when the Sasquatch were first there.
Bronze hasn't been milspec for bladed weapons since the age of Ramesses III.
The secret died with them.
When Chris came along, he made a permanent record and now look at the place...
No expert here but the dude on the hilt/that ‘is’ the hilt sure looks Greek/Roman in style. And the Romans liked short swords so I suppose it’s possible.
As to the actual arrival circumstance, I’d ‘guess’ loot from a Viking haul that arrived via said Vikings.
“As to the actual arrival circumstance, Iâd âguessâ loot from a Viking haul that arrived via said Vikings.”
For more than fifty years now I have wondered why in the world anyone should be surprised to find there had been numerous pre-Columbian contacts between the Old World and New World cultures going back into the Paleolithic periods.
I like the story about the Carthaginian and Israeli sailors who voyaged from the Sinai, around the Cape of Good Hope, northwards through the Atlantic Ocean, and were shipwrecked in the Gulf of Mexico by a hurricane. Succeeding generations were integrated into an ancient tribe of Amerindians, who were compelled to migrate from Florida to Oklahoma, where 20th Century professors claimed to discover they were using an ancient form of Hebrew language and religious ceremony with an origin story describing their shipwreck.
There's been speculation that besides the Vikings, with well establish forays into eastern North America, that Irish and Portuguese seamen also got to North America. I wonder if at some point DNA will settle the speculation that those who remained joined native tribes.
There is an excellent book called “1421” the year the Chinese discovered America.
Roman swords did not have hilts like that. They really didn’t have them at all.
Sasquatch visits were so long ago that everybody has forgotten the dates but it is well known that the Sasquatch buried a fabulous treasure beneath the Aztec treasure ... which is just above the Roman treasures which is just below the Templar treasures ...
There is a theory that the copper mines on the UP of Michigan were mined by someone other that the locals as the total amount of copper estimated to have been removed is larger than the known use of that metal by the locals by many orders of magnitude. However, the estimated amount roughly corresponds to the copper amounts used in Europe during the Bronze age ...
Actually the hilt looks more like a Celtic style. Celts have a long sword that has that kind of hilt/pommel configuration from history. But I haven’t seen a short sword with one. Could be before they started making longer blades. It isn’t roman as they preferred a more half moon style hilt with rounded pommel. Greek maybe... Perhaps the “sea peoples”? Don’t know enough about their origins to guess honestly.
Vikings were the ones who had knowledge of big open water.
I could easily be wrong but that hilt, to my eyes, looks like every Roman/Greek statue I’ve ever seen. It’s pretty artistic and detailed and that was a Roman trademark beyond the man’s physical details.
If it is indeed ceremonial, the size wouldn’t really matter as it wouldn’t be battle oriented.
The term ‘discover’ means, at least to me, finding AND making use of what you discovered. I prefer, in this and all other pre-Columbus finds, EXCEPTING the Native Americans / First Nations, the term ‘encountered’, indicating accidental and ephemeral.
So how many ephemeral encounters were made on the Western Hemisphere? Given prevailing winds, ocean currents and the ability of hardy people to survive long periods of deprivation, I’d say a LOT! We are talking about pre-history to the late 15th Century.
Still, even though the Norse did make it for centuries at Greenland with a time at Newfoundland, it is still and only Columbus that made the permanent Discovery!
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