Posted on 11/27/2015 4:42:05 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
We tried to watch Saints and Stranger, we looked forward to it but the sound was so bad we gave up.
MrD is hard of hearing so I am not surprised at him but my hearing is find and I had trouble under standing their mumbling.
The Pilgrims did not bring any large livestock animals on the Mayflower in 1620. In fact, the only animals known with certainty to have come on the Mayflower were two dogs, though it seems likely that they had with them some chickens.
The first three cows arrived at Plymouth on the ship Anne in 1623.
Therefore, it's not that "the English" were not prepared for survival. It's that THESE English were not prepared.
I get it, but even “city folk” weren’t that removed from basic survival skills, especially in 1600.
The ship he was on diverted to Spain. At that time Catholic law was that if native Americans converted to Christianity they could not be sold as slaves, that's why the monks bought him. Once he was converted he was free to go anywhere which he did by going to England and catching a ship back to America with the intention of converting his fellow tribesmen. He didn't find them (it's not really known why) so he joined up with the only other Christians in the area. The gist of it was that Squanto didn't just help the pilgrims, he was one.
I read about this years ago (not politically correct history). There are other historians with slightly different takes on the history about Squanto.
This is a good one - http://mayflowerhistory.com/tisquantum
These ones were. Almost of half of the Mayflower pilgrims (45 out of 102) died that first winter.
But that was almost exactly the same ratio as at Jamestown-—and even after they got 100 reinforcements, have of those died too. They were hard times, it’s not that the people were stupid or had no concept of how to live or what they were getting into.
The spot they chose for settlement (Jamestown Island -- actually a tiny peninsula) was a swampy area with (as the local Indians knew) limited hunting available as most game animals required larger foraging areas. The settlers quickly hunted and killed off all the game animals. Their chosen swamp-peninsula was infested with malaria mosquitoes, and the brackish water of the tidal James River was not a good source of water. Over 135 settlers died from malaria; drinking contaminated and saline water caused more to sicken and die from saltwater poisoning and dysentery.
Most of the settlers who came over on the initial three ships were were upper-class gentlemen, with very few farmers or skilled laborers. It's their incredibly poor pre-planning (location) as well as their lack of the necessary knowledge and skills, as well as their unwillingness/inability to do the incredibly hard labor needed for wilderness subsistence, that caused most of them to die of disease and starvation, quickly and badly.
Yes, some background context would have been helpful, especially for those who are no longer learning it in school.
Overall,I was extremely impressed with the series.
I was puzzled by that look, as well. Reminded me of Boy George.
Excellent account! Thanks.
They weren’t prepared in Jamestowne either. 1/2 of the first contingent were “gentlemen” who weren’t used to hard work. They died quickly. Then, a good portion of the rest were soldiers who brought Euronpean armor which was useless and hot in the VA wilderness.
Just think of it. A Catholic helped the Pilgrims. Who would have ever guessed it?
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We had trouble, as well,with the sound. Fortunately, we had it on DVR, so we could back it up when necessary.
Apparently, there is some sort of annoying trend in cinematography that has the sound man recording all of the dialogue using one stinking microphone. I suppose the idiots think it’s more realistc.
I'd say so since they were chartered in Virginia.
Good thing they didn’t plan on landing in Hawaii huh.
That would’ve been tough, but warmer at least while they wandered, lol.
Had they made it to Virginia as intended, things may have gone better or they may have not. The House Of Burgesses was established in 1618, so there was a government in place. But, the 2nd Powhatan War was on the way in 1622. An outpost colony in the northern reaches of Virginia might have been wiped out completely. Or, ignored, you never know when speculating about alternate history.
Fish guts maybe? The waste left over after the fish were prepared for eating?
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