Hoo boy, who thought this was a good idea?
Those who are computer savvy, and enterprise customers, will know how to avoid this. But the vast majority of Windows users who had wanted to stay with Windows 7 or 8.1 will find out whether they like Windows 10 the hard way.
Delete, delete!
They sure are desperate to get everyone on Win10.
Whatâs in it for Microsoft, hmmmmm?
Its how you claim an o/s is a huge success. Why look how many people are using it.
There will always be someone out to complain. Microsoft Windows 10 is an excellent version and free upgrades is a great long-range marketing strategy. My 6+ desktops and laptops made the transition without a hitch.
So, if you like your OS, you can keep your OS. Right?
As for me and my household, we use Linux. Microsuck can go pound sand.
I don't care what Microsoft wants or doesn't want. My computer hardware is my personal property, bought and paid for, and the license I agreed to with their previous OS doesn't give them the moral, ethical, or legal right to change ANY software on my property. If they do this, I hope someone sues them till they die.
In reality, it should be a criminal (hacking) matter, not a civil matter. If you or I broke into someone's computer and deleted software, we'd end up in the hoosegow, and rightly so. They shouldn't get away with it just because they're a software manufacturer. Would you or I get awsy with doing that by saying "Oopsie, we set the default to 'Fuck me'. Our bad, sorry (but you still don't get your old OS back. Have a nice day!"?
How Microsoft will cram Windows 10 even harder down your PC's throat early next year |
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The tech giant shows no signs of slowing the rollout of its new operating system, utterly undeterred by the growing public outcry at its pushy attitude.
Windows 10 already appears as a free "optional" update for some Windows 7 and 8.1 systems, and soon this will be widened to all machines running a genuine copy of Win 7 and 8.1.
Then early next year, Windows 10 will become a free "recommended" update â meaning it will be immediately downloaded by any PC or device that automatically installs "important" and "recommended" updates.
Windows 10 will therefore find its way onto potentially millions more machines because Microsoft recommends that people always install "important" and "recommended" updates automatically.
Once the new operating system is fetched, users will be asked if they want to boot into Windows 10.
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Register - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/30/windows_10_updates/
It’s a great idea. Win10 is much better.
Thanks so much for that info! I just changed my setting so Windows can’t automatically download as they have in the past.
I upgraded all 4 of my laptops July 29th, 2 of which had been upgraded from Vista to 7 in 2009. I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t want to upgrade to a much better and more secure Windows.
Mary Jo Foley writes:
“For users with automatic updates enabled, the Recommended setting may cause the Windows 10 upgrade to automatically initiate on their devices. However, users will not be upgraded to Windows 10 until they proactively choose to do so, even once it’s pushed as a Recommended Update, Microsoft officials said today.”
The only thing worse than a PC upgraded from one version of Windows to the next is the ‘downgrade’ back to the original OS that MS promises is possible.
It all will eat up huge chunks of gigabytes on disk that MS apparently believes it is entitled to but much worse than that is any machine with a hybrid of two OS versions especially Windows.
Hell, even MS themselves will suggest that a clean install of any single Windows version is the only sane, stable platform you should use.
This is marketing deprtment madness...MS is hijacking millions of end users’ systems so they can claim to Wall Street and/or critics that Windows 10 has market penetration and uptake of xxx%.
PC sales are being cannibalized by tablet sales as well, further reducing bundled Windows OEM sales volume.
Windows 10 has Huge invasive security issues.
The more expensive Enterprise addition is only slightly better.
Microsoft, Google, Intel, Apple and other internet related tech company’s products and services will increasingly exfiltrate your personal data as per the recently passed CISA and Interagency Behavioral Analysis citizen database Executive Order.
Linux, VPN, anonymous search are probably better privacy choices to bide time til the 1st, 4th and 5th Ammendments are made null and void.
Happy Fishbowl!
Techdirt.com
Microsoft ‘Addresses’ Windows 10 Privacy Concerns By Simply Not Mentioning Most Of Them
from the delightfully-invasive dept
Since launch, Windows 10 has seen no limit of criticism for violating user privacy. Some of these concerns have been legitimate — such as the fact that the OS keeps communicating with Microsoft when core new search services like Cortana have been disabled, or that users don’t seem to have complete, transparent control over what the operating system is doing. But other complaints seem to have been based on false rumors that Windows 10 is embedded with a nefarious “keylogger” that tracks everything you type and say or is reporting your BitTorrent activity to Hollywood middlemen.
So far, Microsoft’s been dead silent on these issues for months, which hasn’t done much to defuse the situation. This week, the company decided to finally comment on user concerns in a blog post and both consumer and enterprise privacy documents that address at least some user worries. Microsoft’s Terry Myerson starts by promising that Windows 10 user data is encrypted in transit, the company isn’t scanning your files or e-mails to blast you with ads, and any data collection Microsoft is engaged in is simply the company trying to develop a “delightful” OS experience:
“We aspire to deliver a delightful and personalized Windows experience to you, which benefits from knowing some things about you to customize your experience, such as knowing whether you are a Seattle Seahawks fan or Real Madrid fan, in order to give you updates on game scores or recommend apps you might enjoyâ or remembering the common words you type in text messaging conversations to provide you convenient text completion suggestions.”
Microsoft also takes a few shots at Google in the entry:
“Unlike some other platforms, no matter what privacy options you choose, neither Windows 10 nor any other Microsoft software scans the content of your email or other communications, or your files, in order to deliver targeted advertising to you.”
The problem with Microsoft’s response is largely one of omission. Sure, the OS doesn’t scan your e-mail and files for ad purposes, but you’ll note the company doesn’t really mention the OS’s ingrained search and Cortana data being used for that purpose. Microsoft also doesn’t really address why users don’t really have control over telemetry (crash) data as in previous Windows versions (the enterprise version of Windows 10 allows crash telemetry data reports to be disabled entirely, while the mainstream Home and Pro versions of Windows don’t). Ars Technica probably puts it best:
“There’s nothing new here and nothing that’s likely to convince those concerned about Windows 10’s privacy. Two classes of data are excludedâcommunications (including e-mail and Skype) and file contentsâbut everything else appears to be fair game for ad targeting. So while Cortana can’t use your e-mail to tailor ads to your interests, it appears that she could use the appointments in your calendar to do so, for example.”
Microsoft also doesn’t really address concerns about Windows 10 just being annoyingly chatty, sending numerous reports back to the Redmond mothership even when the operating system is configured to be as quiet and private as possible. The core problem with Windows 10 remains that opt-out settings remain muddy and in some cases ineffective, and it’s not really clear how a lot of the OS-collected data is being used. Microsoft’s blog post fails to really address this, though the company at least promises to start elevating the privacy conversation to the level of security-related discourse.
Granted, there’s no shortage of people who will simply never trust the company no matter how much progress is made, justifiably citing decades of bad behavior as precedent. And while it’s lovely that Microsoft’s focused on crafting a “delightful” OS experience, the refusal to give Windows 10 users total, clear control over their OS still doesn’t reflect a company that now claims to be in the vanguard of consumer privacy issues.
Finally updated last week because Microsoft was hinting that the time to update for free was running out.
First glitch? Win10 changed my logon password without asking me first. WTF??? Thought I was screwed. Couldn’t even get into my own damned computer. But guess what? Your new password is in their cloud. So you can always recover. WTF??? Big Brother’s got your back, I guess, if you like that sort of thing.
Turned that crap off after the first update on firing up this new Win7 machine 1.5 years ago.
Strange, no problems since then. Could that mean all those "fixes" and updates were a joke or spyware?
I love Windows 10, but agree this is a bad idea, I’d be really surprised if it actually happens.
maybe they should offer windows 10 for free for xp, 2k users as well if they want more ppl on windows 10
I don’t know (or want to know) how to post a topic.
But something weird is going on. I have a toolbar showing up here that I did not install.
And before anyone asks...yes I am logged on and my computer is plugged in.
BFL