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More VW trouble: 2016 diesels have new suspect software
phys.org ^ | October 14, 2015 | By Michael Biesecker And Tom Krisher

Posted on 10/15/2015 2:07:15 PM PDT by Red Badger

A Volkswagen Touareg diesel is tested in the Environmental Protection Agency's cold temperature test facility, Tuesday, Oct. 13, 2015, in Ann Arbor, Mich. Volkswagen has disclosed to U.S. regulators that there's additional suspect software in its 2016 diesel models that would potentially help their exhaust systems run cleaner during government tests. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

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U.S. regulators say they have a lot more questions for Volkswagen, triggered by the company's recent disclosure of additional suspect software in 2016 diesel models that potentially would help exhaust systems run cleaner during government tests. That's more bad news for VW dealers looking for new cars to replace the ones they can no longer sell because of the worldwide cheating scandal already engulfing the world's largest automaker. And, depending on what the Environmental Protection Agency eventually finds, it raises the possibility of even more severe punishment.

Volkswagen confirmed to The Associated Press on Tuesday that the "auxiliary emissions control device" at issue operates differently from the "defeat" device software included in the company's 2009 to 2015 models disclosed last month.

The new software was first revealed to Environmental Protection Agency and California regulators on Sept. 29, prompting the company last week to withdraw applications for approval to sell the 2016 cars in the U.S.

"We have a long list of questions for VW about this," said Janet McCabe, acting assistant EPA administrator for air quality. "We're getting some answers from them, but we do not have all the answers yet."

The delay means that thousands of 2016 Beetles, Golfs and Jettas will remain quarantined in U.S. ports until a fix can be developed, approved and implemented. Diesel versions of the Passat sedan manufactured at the company's plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee, also are on hold.

Volkswagen already faces a criminal investigation and billions of dollars in fines for violating the Clean Air Act for its earlier emissions cheat, as well as a raft of state investigations and class-action lawsuits filed on behalf of customers.

If EPA rules the new software is a second defeat device specifically aimed at gaming government emissions tests, it would call into question repeated assertions by top VW executives that responsibility for the cheating scheme lay with a handful of rogue software developers who wrote the illegal code installed in prior generations of its four-cylinder diesel engines.

That a separate device was included in the redesigned 2016 cars could suggest a multi-year effort by the company to influence U.S. emissions tests that continued even after regulators began pressing the company last year about irregularities with the emissions produced by the older cars.

The software at issue makes a pollution-control catalyst heat up faster, improving performance of the device that separates smog-causing nitrogen oxide into harmless nitrogen and oxygen gases.

"This has the function of a warmup strategy which is subject to approval by the agencies," said Jeannine Ginivan, a VW spokeswoman. "The agencies are currently evaluating this and Volkswagen is submitting additional information."

Automakers routinely place auxiliary emissions control devices on passenger vehicles, though they are required by law to disclose them as part of the process to receive the emissions certifications that are required to sell the cars.

EPA's McCabe wouldn't say if VW's failure to disclose the software in its 2016 applications was illegal. "I don't want to speak to any potential subjects of an enforcement activity," she said.

If VW was cheating a second time, that would probably mean higher fines against the company, said Kelley Blue Book Senior Analyst Karl Brauer.

Regulators are "going to be even more angry than they already are," Brauer said. "The punitive actions from the EPA are only going to get more aggressive."

The German automaker already faces up to $18 billion in potential fines over the nearly half-million vehicles sold with the initial emissions-rigging software.

AP first reported Oct. 7 that the EPA and California Air Resources Board were investigating "the nature and purpose" of additional software on the new VW models, but at the time both the company and regulators declined to provide details about what the device does or how it works.

Volkswagen of America CEO Michael Horn said in congressional testimony last week that the German automaker had withdrawn applications seeking certification of its 2016 diesels because of on-board software that hadn't been disclosed to regulators. However, Horn's statement left unclear whether the issue with the 2016 models was the same as that in the earlier models, or whether it potentially constituted a new violation.

A congressional staffer briefed on the issue told AP that VW probably didn't need the additional software to meet government emissions standards, but that the device appears intended to ensure the 2016 cars would pass inspection by wider margins. The staffer spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk publicly about the ongoing investigation.

VW is now working with regulators to continue the certification process needed to sell its 2016 diesel cars.

Explore further: Q&A: A look at Volkswagen's emissions crisis


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KEYWORDS: automobile; diesel; vw
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To: tacticalogic

“Could you transplant the engines into an older model that had more lenient emission regs?”

Even easier, buy a beat-up same-year gas car and put the diesel in that. But no promises regarding parts, if the engines are actually disposed of.


21 posted on 10/15/2015 4:21:15 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL
But no promises regarding parts, if the engines are actually disposed of.

If they're cheap enough, you could buy a couple of them and have one for parts.

22 posted on 10/15/2015 4:29:49 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Agree...but they won’t allow it. They’ll have them destroyed in some way, as with Cash for Clunkers. But even after that, if the engine is still around, it will cost nothing and still have lots and lots of good parts.


23 posted on 10/15/2015 5:10:41 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: tacticalogic

I kinda want to stuff a TDI into an early model Porsche Boxster picked up cheap after IMS bearing failure.


24 posted on 10/15/2015 7:24:35 PM PDT by bluetick
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To: Travis McGee

my son bought a Passat. Since he is in the car a lot he just loves the car. I think he gets about 600 miles per tank.

I’m waiting on the diesel Tundras to come out. Dealer told me last week that they would be at dealers in the coming December-January timeframe.


25 posted on 10/15/2015 9:14:05 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Redbob

“Not every state tests emissions; in fact,the majority do not.”

Really? Did not know that. Been doing it in Texas for several years.


26 posted on 10/16/2015 3:32:43 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Red Badger

FUEPA.

Agency delete required.


27 posted on 10/16/2015 3:37:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Red Badger
The software at issue makes a pollution-control catalyst heat up faster, improving performance of the device that separates smog-causing nitrogen oxide into harmless nitrogen and oxygen gases.

Cars have had systems like this (e.g. secondary air injection) for years, specifically to get the catalytic converter to heat up quickly. How in the world can this be considered a "cheat", unless the EPA deliberately requires that testing is to be done on cars that haven't reached operating temperatures.

28 posted on 10/16/2015 3:48:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Cen-Tejas

My son is getting close to 600 miles to a tank in his Mazda 3 (gas). And I am getting 500 miles to a tank in my new BMW (gas).


29 posted on 10/16/2015 3:54:16 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: bicyclerepair

Hopefully VW can drag out their investigation, etc, well into the next presidency. And we get a Republican president with some balls.


30 posted on 10/16/2015 3:58:34 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Redbob

IIRC, if the number of vehicles that are in non-compliance is under a certain cap, then no recall is required, that is the reason for the suspension of sales.................


31 posted on 10/16/2015 6:07:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: moovova

Ha!!


32 posted on 10/16/2015 1:02:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama practices "religion" in the mirror.)
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