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Fiorina's Huge Misrepresentation Last Night Could Injure the Planned Parenthood Debate
Vanity ^ | 17 Sep 15

Posted on 09/17/2015 5:16:28 AM PDT by xzins

Carly Fiorina clearly said in the debate last night that in the Planned Parenthood videos the viewers can see a baby on the table, its heart beating, and people talking about cutting it open to harvest its brain.

"Anyone who has watched this video tape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain," Fiorina said.

In reality, those videos were of the participants in those horrendous abortion and harvesting incidents. They were recounting their experiences. While there is a video of a baby on a table, that was not the baby in question, but is an insertion by the Center for Medical Progress. Other of the videos were based on catching the PP leadership discussing harvesting, pricing, selling, etc.

There were ZERO live shots of abortion harvesting procedures.

Carly Fiorina NEVER saw that baby in question on any table.

How will this hurt the PP debate?

It opens it to the charge of emotionalism for effect and to charges of hearsay evidence because of her misrepresentation. People will go to see, as she has suggested, and then they'll discover they cannot see because she has misrepresented.

She did it for effect. But, she was misguided.


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1 posted on 09/17/2015 5:16:28 AM PDT by xzins
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To: P-Marlowe; wagglebee

She might have been sincere, but she was misguided.


2 posted on 09/17/2015 5:16:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

She defended her position the morning on ABC when George Steffy asked her point blank.


4 posted on 09/17/2015 5:20:01 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Abbeville Conservative

read the quote and watch the video. She did say it in the way I describe it.

In fact, her exact quote is above.


5 posted on 09/17/2015 5:20:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

I think that’s a stretch that she did it for effect.

Will she issue a correction? I would hope she would. But the net difference between what was discussed versus what is seen still ends up with the same result - a dead child.


6 posted on 09/17/2015 5:20:51 AM PDT by Fury
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To: xzins

Oh horseshit!
She absolutley accurate on the substance of the matter.


7 posted on 09/17/2015 5:21:30 AM PDT by tshaun
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To: Fury

It was a huge mistake on her part to misrepresent what was portrayed. I caught it immediately as she said it. I also knew it would be picked up by the media, and it has been.


8 posted on 09/17/2015 5:22:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

Yes, perhaps - in fact, but not in principle.

I look at it this way. If one were to do an expose many decades ago about, say, Auschwitz and the goings on and included footage from Dachau while discussing it, would it make all that much difference?

I’m not in any way in the tank for her. To me I just don’t see her as my candidate, but I’ll give her her due on this. A disgusting and horrible topic where the actions claimed very likely happened, even if not “on camera” at the time.


9 posted on 09/17/2015 5:22:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tshaun

No she isn’t. She misrepresented the videos.


10 posted on 09/17/2015 5:22:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

I see your point but what were her exact words? Anyone got the transcript?


11 posted on 09/17/2015 5:23:18 AM PDT by McGruff (The angry majority has awoken.)
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To: Gaffer

I’m not giving her a pass on this one. She misrepresented the facts, people will go look, they’ll find she did so, and the CMP videos’ impact will be lessened.


12 posted on 09/17/2015 5:24:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: McGruff

Her exact words are above.


13 posted on 09/17/2015 5:24:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

Don’t worry about her...the “fix” is in.

They made a special exception to the rules to allow 11 instead of the original 10 to debate. The reason? She was a female and all of the others were male. So? What is the solution? That’s right! Bend the rules to allow 11 to debate.

Hell! If Carson didn’t make the top 10 they would have expanded the debate to 12 so that blacks could be represented too.

A perfect example of political manipulation to garner favor with any and all special interest groups.

It’s the Republican way: “Go along to get along.”


14 posted on 09/17/2015 5:24:51 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: tshaun
I can't believe no one has discuss her response on Putin

She would refuse to talk to him just send in 6th Fleet after him or Russia.

How scary

15 posted on 09/17/2015 5:25:24 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: xzins

I’m glad you’re not her political consultant.

It was home run answer and it was close enough.


16 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:11 AM PDT by pkmaine
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To: xzins

There’snothing sincere about Carley. She’s a loser, period!


17 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:19 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: McGruff
FIORINA: "As regards Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, it's heart beating, it's legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain."
18 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:30 AM PDT by SuperSonic (If I had a dog it would look like the one Obama ate!)
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To: xzins

But was not the details of the practice described by the PP people exemplified by that insertion so one could see the state of an aborted child at that period? Does it not put credence to a picture is worth a thousand words?

Up to this time all we have had is words, back and forth. Those PP people in the video were giving the God awful details of what they were doing. All the insertion did was put to the lie that it was just “tissue”.

I would not vote for her, but I do give her credit for raising the issue for millions to set and wonder. Their most strident question will be why were we not told this by the media?


19 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:35 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: xzins

Not a Carly supporter. That said her description of the baby brain harvest can only do good in the defunding of PP. whether or not it was actually viewable is moot. It was emotionally charged and a positive anti abortion message. We know these things go on under PP’s control.... She just reaffirms it


20 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:42 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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