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Will Says Trump Supporters Aren't Republican & He Should Be Banned From Debates
http://www.rightwingnews.com ^ | 8/14/2015 | Teresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 08/14/2015 9:54:14 AM PDT by conservativejoy

Who made George Will the spokesman for the GOP? He’s defining himself in this article as the consummate judge of who and who isn’t a conservative or a Republican. This is one of the most dishonest political hits I have ever read. Never mind that Will’s wife works for Scott Walker, who I already had issues with because of the people he has surrounding him… I’m sure that has nothing to do with this at all (that’s sarcasm by the way). I support and want Ted Cruz elected, but I take great umbrage at the way Trump is being treated. He should be allowed to run his race and state his stances for Americans to take or leave. That’s the way free elections are supposed to be run. Not by some columnist who uses false arguments (see below) to justify calling for banning Donald Trump from future debates and calling any that support him faux conservatives. That’s a lie… I know a lot of passionate conservatives and Tea Party people who are supporting Donald Trump. Will is attempting to discredit and marginalize those who would dare support Trump. Careful George… you are beginning to sound a great deal like Saul Alinsky.

Donald Trump

From the Washington Post: In every town large enough to have two traffic lights there is a bar at the back of which sits the local Donald Trump, nursing his fifth beer and innumerable delusions. Because the actual Donald Trump is wealthy, he can turn himself into an unprecedentedly and incorrigibly vulgar presidential candidate. It is his right to use his riches as he pleases. His squalid performance and its coarsening of civic life are costs of freedom that an open society must be prepared to pay.

When, however, Trump decided that his next acquisition would be not another casino but the Republican presidential nomination, he tactically and quickly underwent many conversions of convenience (concerning abortion, health care, funding Democrats, etc.). His makeover demonstrates that he is a counterfeit Republican and no conservative.

He is an affront to anyone devoted to the project William F. Buckley began six decades ago with the founding in 1955 of the National Review — making conservatism intellectually respectable and politically palatable. Buckley’s legacy is being betrayed by invertebrate conservatives now saying that although Trump “goes too far,” he has “tapped into something,” and therefore. . . .

Therefore what? This stance — if a semi-grovel can be dignified as a stance — is a recipe for deserved disaster. Remember, Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond “tapped into” things.

In 1948, Wallace, FDR’s former vice president, ran as a third-party candidate opposing Harry Truman’s reelection. His campaign became a vehicle for, among others, communists and fellow travelers opposed to Truman’s anti-Soviet foreign policy. Truman persevered, leaders of organized labor cleansed their movement of Soviet sympathizers, and Truman was reelected.

He won also in spite of South Carolina’s Democratic Gov. Thurmond siphoning off Democratic votes (and 39 electoral votes) as a Dixiecrat protesting civil rights commitments in the Democratic Party’s platform. Truman won because he kept his party and himself from seeming incoherent and boneless.

Conservatives who flinch from forthrightly marginalizing Trump mistakenly fear alienating a substantial Republican cohort. But the assumption that today’s Trumpites are Republicans is unsubstantiated and implausible. Many are no doubt lightly attached to the political process, preferring entertainment to affiliation. They relish their candidate’s vituperation and share his aversion to facts. From what GOP faction might Trumpites come? The establishment? Social conservatives? Unlikely.

They certainly are not tea partyers, those earnest, issue-oriented, book-club organizing activists who are passionate about policy. Trump’s aversion to reality was displayed during the Cleveland debate when Chris Wallace asked him for “evidence” to support his claim that Mexico’s government is sending rapists and drug dealers to the United States. Trump, as usual, offered apoplexy as an argument.

A political party has a right to (in language Trump likes) secure its borders. Indeed, a party has a duty to exclude interlopers, including cynical opportunists deranged by egotism. This is why closed primaries, although not obligatory, are defensible: Let party members make the choices that define the party and dispense its most precious possession, a presidential nomination. So, the Republican National Committee should immediately stipulate that subsequent Republican debates will be open to any and all — but only — candidates who pledge to support the party’s nominee.

This year’s Republican field is the most impressive since 1980, and perhaps the most talent-rich since the party first had a presidential nominee, in 1856. But 16 candidates are experiencing diminishment by association with the 17th.

Soon the campaign will turn to granular politics, the on-the-ground retail work required by the 1.4 percent of the nation’s population that lives in Iowa and New Hampshire. Try to imagine Trump in an Iowa living room, with a macaroon in one hand and cup of hot chocolate balanced on a knee, observing Midwestern civilities while talking about something other than himself.

Television, which has made Trump (he is one of three candidates, with Mike Huckabee and John Kasich, who have had television shows), will unmake him, turning his shtick into a transcontinental bore. But not before many voters will have noticed weird vibrations pulsing from the GOP.

So, conservatives today should deal with Trump with the firmness Buckley dealt with the John Birch Society in 1962. The society was an extension of a loony businessman who said Dwight Eisenhower was “a dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy.” In a 5,000-word National Review “excoriation” (Buckley’s word), he excommunicated the society from the conservative movement.

Buckley received an approving letter from a subscriber who said, “You have once again given a voice to the conscience of conservatism.” The letter was signed, “Ronald Reagan, Pacific Palisades, Cal.”

I find it fascinating that George Will would choose the Washington Post to use as a public forum to attack Trump. Will is from the National Review which dumped Mark Steyn because of his opinions. That’s telling. And I love how he hides behind William Buckley’s skirts. He even invoked Reagan, who by the way, was a friend of Trump’s. Will also does not speak for the Tea Party or conservatives in general. His conservative credentials leave something to be desired on their own. This is a stitched together hit piece that is specious and weak in logic and facts. I actually support the John Birch Society. I’m also a dedicated commie hunter. For George Will to throw the political kitchen sink at Trump instead of tending to his chosen candidate’s campaign and stances, simply because he fears Trump will somehow win, speaks to the strength of Trump’s message and the weakness of Will’s conservatism.

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To: Responsibility2nd

Replying to the article doesn’t mean that people are freaking out. It’s pinging some interest because it’s been a good long while since Will has said anything of interest.


41 posted on 08/14/2015 10:18:43 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

“Looney businessman”, says the guy that have never done anything productive or provided anybody with a job in his life. A grocery bagger does more for society and is worthy of infinitely more respect than George Will.


42 posted on 08/14/2015 10:22:08 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: Jim 0216

Ole George misses the old days when he could spend the day hanging out with Cookie Roberts, sipping cognac and pontificating about how to be a elitist and not show it.


43 posted on 08/14/2015 10:24:39 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: smoothsailing

That is correct. In defining the positively magic influence of baseball on our America—Will is an Ace.

Any other contribution to life or reality is not this gop e-dopers forte. Put him in the Gergen hack camp for liberal lite drones for useful idiots. Get off my tv screen you dolt.


44 posted on 08/14/2015 10:25:44 AM PDT by whistleduck
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To: conservativejoy

Spoken like a true Establishment totalitarian apparatchik. The people like someone we can’t beat so they must be banned.


45 posted on 08/14/2015 10:32:05 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: conservativejoy
Will Says Trump Supporters Aren't Republican & He Should Be Banned From Debates

FreeReign Says Yeb Supporters Aren't Republicans & He Should Be Banned From Debates

46 posted on 08/14/2015 10:33:07 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: conservativejoy

Who the hell isWill to make determinations on any damned subject.
Stick to baseball George ya dpoe.


47 posted on 08/14/2015 10:33:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: conservativejoy

So the GOPe sends another one of its champions into the arena to battle Trump. The Bow Tie wearing metro sexual Will is wielding his mighty pen. Too bad there are already thumbs down signals from us peasants. Apparently we know ahead of time the strength of the mighty Will pen. The DC Elite think it is unbeatable apparently.


48 posted on 08/14/2015 10:33:56 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: DannyTN

From what I’m seeing the Trump supporters are coming from all over the place....case in point the two women in the youtube videos The Viewers View. I think his supporters are AMERICANS...who want this country to be decent again.


49 posted on 08/14/2015 10:35:51 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Aria

Trump is campaigning to win them all.

He reached out to women again today saying the idea of a woman running mate was great.


50 posted on 08/14/2015 10:39:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: conservativejoy

Inside the beltway there is a forest. In the forest there is an endemic parasite, the Potomac Tick. Once bitten, one begins to suffer gradual dementia, and the ability to communicate only with others so inflicted. Poor George. He did write some good books on Baseball.


51 posted on 08/14/2015 10:39:32 AM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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To: conservativejoy

Will is a fibatarian.


52 posted on 08/14/2015 10:40:57 AM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Why? Because we say so!)
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To: tet68
[quote from Will]: leaders of organized labor cleansed their movement of Soviet sympathizers

I’m sorry George, just when did THIS happen?

Good point. The only reason their movement was "cleansed" was there was technically no Soviet Union left to sympathize with, after it collapsed! They still have the same basic sentiments toward tyrannical communist world rule. The leopard did not change it's spots.

53 posted on 08/14/2015 10:42:59 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: demshateGod

George Will sounds like the Left. Like the Left, he wants to keep people from hearing certain individuals and opinions. He is doing what those on the Right have criticized Soros and the Left of doing.


54 posted on 08/14/2015 10:43:04 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: VRWCarea51

How could old “conservative” Horhey sat next to Cokie Roberts and Sam (****head) Donaldson for years and not want to sucker punch one and choke the life out of the other one, lol. What a perfect foil for those two. He would vote them pres and vice if he could.


55 posted on 08/14/2015 10:44:56 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: conservativejoy

Well if you mean TRUMP isn’t bowing down to Boehner, McConnell, and Cornyn... that is a GOOD THING! They are RINOS


56 posted on 08/14/2015 10:55:06 AM PDT by buffyt (The devil's favorite sin: pride. Favorite trick: convincing us he doesn't exist.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

AMEN! You are RIGHT!


57 posted on 08/14/2015 10:56:20 AM PDT by buffyt (The devil's favorite sin: pride. Favorite trick: convincing us he doesn't exist.)
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To: conservativejoy

He’s right about one thing. I support Trump and I am NOT a republican.


58 posted on 08/14/2015 11:24:01 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: conservativejoy
If I remember correctly , Reagan democrats were not Republicans either.

Will's comment is irrelevant anyway.

The American political landscape is changing and Obama has intentionally been forging a new Democrat coalition that throws the traditional Democrat demographic base of hard working Union and Blue Collar middle class working people under the bus in favor of a new, third world style coalition of the Welfare/ Entitlement classes, Illegal Aliens, Government Workers and Homosexual, “Feminist” and Race obsessed partisans, all led by a self styled group of Academic, Political, Cultural, Technocratic, and Corporate “Elites” who rule with near dictatorial control, for our own good - of course.

If the Republican party is to have a future, the New Republican coalition will have to appeal to the hard working blue collar working class and the other hard working middle class voters who work for a living and play by the rules and who the Democrats have abandoned in favor of the gibsmedat “vote for a living classes” who depend upon Democrat supplied government handouts

59 posted on 08/14/2015 11:29:42 AM PDT by rdcbn (imee)
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To: conservativejoy

George Will is eloquent and literate, but he is out of touch.


60 posted on 08/14/2015 11:39:13 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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