Too late, nyah nyah! ;') I do remember enjoying a bumper sticker of this, though:
Posted on 07/09/2015 4:50:03 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
The discovery of the Americas has for centuries been credited to the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus, but ancient markings carved into rocks around the US could require history to be rewritten.
Researchers have discovered ancient scripts that suggest Chinese explorers may have discovered America long before Europeans arrived there.
They have found pictograms etched into the rocks around the country that appear to belong of an ancient Chinese script.
John Ruskamp, a retired chemist and amateur epigraph researcher from Illinois, discovered the unusual markings while walking in the Petroglyph National Monument in Albuquerque,
He claims they indicate ancient people from Asia were present in the Americas around 1,300BC – nearly 2,800 years before Columbus's ships stumbled across the New World by reaching the Caribbean in 1492.
He said: 'These ancient Chinese writings in North America cannot be fake, for the markings are very old as are the style of the scripts.
'As such the findings of this scientific study confirm that ancient Chinese people were exploring and positively interacting with the Native peoples over 2,500 years ago.
'The pattern of the finds suggests more of an expedition than settlement.'
However, his controversial views have been met with scepticism by many experts who point to the lack of archaeological evidence for any ancient Chinese presence in the New World.
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I have read that bubonic plague is endemic among wild rodent populations in 17 Western states. Have any genetic studies ever been done to see what the similarities might be to Asian forms of bubonic plague versus the European varieties? They would probably have to dig up old remains to study the types that existed historically. I also wonder if BP could have been a factor in disappearance of Anasazi and other tribal groups? Any studies of causes of death among the buried?
The Tlingit, Haida, et al were raiders and slavers, trade was usually forced.
> As to why would the Chinese be wandering around a desert...
Maybe they couldn’t remember their names, and there wasn’t anyone around to give them no pain... ;’)
And of course, terrain that is desert today hasn’t always been that way.
Probably put there by their own operatives 40 years ago as part of the cover for their planned takeover in another 40 years.
LOL! I’ve never seen that, but it’s pretty clever! <3
> Plague is a globally distributed, zoonotic disease caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. In the late 1890s, rat-infested steamships introduced the disease into the continental United States. The first documented autochthonous human infection occurred in the Chinatown section of San Francisco, California, in March of 1900. Cases were soon reported in other port cities, including New Orleans, Galveston, Seattle, and Los Angeles. Along the Pacific Coast, infection spread from urban rats to native rodent species, and by the 1950s, Y. pestis had spread eastward to reach western portions of the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. This distribution has remained static for >60 years, presumably the result of climatic and ecologic factors that limit further spread. Although poorly defined, these factors may be related to the ecology of vector species rather than that of rodent hosts.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4285253/
Thanks TXnMA.
Looking for the Middle Of The World?
The peaceful Zuni of New Mexico and Arizona are much studied, partly because their language, culture and physical appearance set them apart from other Native American peoples. Davis, an anthropologist who has made 10 visits to the Zuni pueblo, now offers the startling thesis that a group of Japanese Buddhists left earthquake-wracked medieval Japan and came by ship to the Southern California coast, eventually migrating inland to the Zuni territory, where they merged their culture and genes with Native Americans to produce the modern Zuni people around A.D. 1350. Davis uses "forensic" evidence--including analyses of dental morphology, blood and skeletal remains--to support a Japanese-Zuni connection. Further, she notes the Zuni's exceptionally high incidence of a specific kidney disease that is also unusually common in Japan. Yet she acknowledges there have been no DNA studies to confirm or refute her hypothesis, and she has not turned up a single 13th-century Japanese item in North America. Her bold, highly speculative theory gets a boost from some cultural parallels, including striking similarities between the Zuni and Japanese languages; between the Zuni "sacred rosette" found on robes and pottery and the Japanese Buddhist chrysanthemum symbol (presently Japan's imperial crest). A Zuni mid-January ceremony with masked monsters, aimed at frightening children into proper behavior, is almost identical to one in Japan. Davis's broader thesis that the Pacific was a "liquid highway" mounts a serious challenge to the entrenched idea of the peopling of the Americas solely via the Bering Strait land bridge. Open-minded readers will enjoy her beautifully written book as an opportunity to ponder our shared humanity. Illus. Copyright 2000 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
"The epidemic of cocoliztli from 1545 to 1548 killed an estimated 5 million to 15 million people, or up to 80% of the native population of Mexico (Figure 1). In absolute and relative terms the 1545 epidemic was one of the worst demographic catastrophes in human history, approaching even the Black Death of bubonic plague, which killed approximately 25 million in western Europe from 1347 to 1351 or about 50% of the regional population.
The cocoliztli epidemic from 1576 to 1578 cocoliztli epidemic killed an additional 2 to 2.5 million people, or about 50% of the remaining native population.
I read that there was not enough copper available to Europeans to get the bronze age going except for the huge ammounts that were mined in the Great Lakes area and that ancient smelted copper can be traced to its origins by studuying the impurities. Most of the bronze so studied is identical with copper in those Great Lakes mine areas which were mined throughout the bronze age and ceased to be used about the time iron supplanted bronze. The identity of the origins of the impurities was sloughed off by mainstream (the old guys in the universities) archaeologists as an obvious anomaly that just hasn’t been explained yet.
Apparently the Atlantic and to a lesser extent the Pacific were well travelled thoroughfares for millennia. Columbus brought it to the attention of rulers who thought to get rich and powerful from the discoveries and thus actually brought the Americas into the Western World.
I often wonder if past visitors may have brought diseases that raged through the much larger mesoamerican populations of the past wiping them out.
Diseases passed from mesoamericans to Europeans would have a harder time making it back to Europe or Asia. The ancient travelers may have died here or died during the return sea voyages.
I don’t remember the names but I’ve read about a tribe in Chile that uses a pottery decoration pattern that is very similar to traditional patterns used by the Ainu of northern Japan. The patterning similarities could be purely coincidental but only the South American tribe and the Ainu carry a certain mild genetic disease found nowhere else in the world. The Ainu carried the gene for as long as anyone can tell but it appeared suddenly in the south American tribe within the last 2000 years or so. (right around the time the pottery patterns appeared)
I read Over The Edge of the World by Magellan’s chronicler. The Chinese fleet was all over the western Pacific trading and whatever. Just before Magellan, the emperor grounded most of the fleet saying people should come to China and not the other way around. This coincidentally let Magellan sail right into the Philippines.
The Chinese ships were described as 2-3 times larger than Columbus’ They certainly had the wherewithal for long sea voyages. However, no evidence of a trip in the 14th and 15th centuries.
Nope. Sorry. I like my... um... theory? yeah. Theory, that’s the ticket!! I like my ‘theory’ better. It’s truthy and truthy or truthish is the new scientific bar. Just ask any media popular climate scientist!
China discovered and invented America because plague!
So let it be written. So let it be said.
The Shang-Olmec connection links are, hmm, uh, I think posted those... y’know, I’m not sure now... the olmec or shang keywords will list topics related to it... unless I just dreamed the whole thing... I’ve been falling asleep at the keyboard a lot...
That happens more frequently as you get older, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
From this ( Mother Of Us All, Or Sister? Olmecs A Puzzle) ten year old thread.
(It was the Jomon not the Ainu)
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