Posted on 06/08/2015 4:48:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Trump said the Republicans are pushing the deal because they dont understand the topic and theyre making a mistake.
Its because you have lobbyists lobbying for this thing, and you have lobbyists representing areas of industry, you have lobbyists representing countries, Trump said.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/08/exclusive-donald-trump-disaster-trade-deal-empowers-americas-enemies-another-sign-country-is-going-to-hell/
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Sorry.
Just saying.
I think that he might be inferring that Cruz is in error and he disagrees with him.....not a liar
Fast Track” per se was challenged to the USSC and they ruled in 92 it was “non jeduciable”...that it was up to POTUS and Congress to decide what was, and was not a “treaty” covered under Article II, Section II constraints.
However, the context of that ruling was PURELY trade.
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The ruling you cite indicated that it was solely in the purview of the Legislature to determine what encompassed a treaty or a trade agreement; and thus, the Legislature just acted within its constitutional entitlement to define the agreement.
Secondly, the 92 litigation was not limited to trade as you suggest. Certainly, both legally and logically, if that were the case, there would have been no need for judicial review.
There is no stronger defender of the Constitution than Ted Cruz— that’s his history, and that’s his core.
I have no argument with those who are against this legislation. I do, however, object to those who impute motives to Sen. Cruz based on conjecture; and ascribe to him nefarious intentions merely because he is voting his convictions.
So he zots based on one’s service branch? That’s news to me.
Who determined that trade bills are not treaties?
Is it not an agreement with another nation?
How are trade deals different from treaties?
So, you think a treaty that sets the rules for extradition is different from an agreement on tariffs..when both affect our laws?
Fast Track is just like the nuclear option.....a shortcut of the process for the lazy.
It is not supposed to be easy to create treaties. It is supposed to take a supermajority because of their importance and impact on the nation.
Just like approving nominations, it is not supposed to be a simple majority to engage in trade deals.
Look, Cruz talks a good game, but a few votes lately must give you pause.
Secondly, he is married to a member of the CFR and executive at Goldman Sachs. That should not be discounted.
I am not saying Ted Cruz is evil or unworthy of our vote.
But he is cozying up with those who do not have our best interests at heart.
Many castigate Walker for his words. But you cannot disparage Walker's record.
Cruz has good words, but some of his votes give us a pause.
I would still vote for him if he wins the nomination, but I prefer a results guy----Walker.
Of course not.
Jim zots those who do not respect live at first showing. He also has no tolerance for those who disrespect the site, or him.
He also will not tolerate advocacy for commies, homo's or advocates for exclusively liberal agenda.
But he has always been quite tolerant of vicious, fact based debate....until a month or two before the vote.
That's my experience.
But perhaps I don't have the first hand knowledge you do.
Do you know something different than that?
Erik, pls see my post 104.
I’m on east coast time, so -good night, all.
So because of this ONE issue and ONE Issue only, Trump is now considered conservative material?
Laughable.
If this is your #1 issue, Elizabeth Warren is your candidate. You all want to somehow align Cruz to Obama for this trade vote and ignore the fact that his logic for supporting it is vastly different from Obozo’s but give a pass to Sessions and yourselves for cuddling up to the likes of Warren and Chucky Schumer and the vast number of radical leftists also opposing it out of fear the Union thugs will take their power away? (did you see what I just did there? - If Cruz is now a charlatan and cuddler to Obama, that makes anyone who opposes this trade bill a sympathizer of Elizabeth Warren and Chucky Schumer.)
We need a Samuel L Jackson/Pulp Fiction meme captioned “Go ahead, start another TPP thread, I dare you.” (kidding). But I swear it’s a good thing social media didn’t exist back in 1980 like it does now. Could Reagan have survived? I don’t know.
A few serious errors in your complilations...the stuff you see for sale in Wal-Mart is there because that's what their customers demand.....you can't sell an American made shirt for $25 when you can buy the same quality shirt from Bangle-desh for $12....an electric frying pan from here costs $50 while its counterpart from China is $29..The U.S is competing in a world market and price is important to everybody.
I agree that their currency manipulation should be brought under control....lots of luck there.
We don't have close to the largest consumer market...China has a billion or so people and we have 350 million...this is getting to be a much tougher world that it has been in the past and we cannot continue to price ourselves out of the market....The steel industry did it to themselves years ago and other industries are in the process now. Clothing manufacturing used to be huge here.....no more....just look at what happened in the auto industry.....you don't buy a Chevie made by a $60 per hour union worker who spends half the day playing cards in the lounge so that he doesn't exceed union production quotas when you can buy a high quality Nissan product made by a worker who appreciates his job at $40 per hour.
So, because the SCOTUS rules it is between the Executive and Legislative branches, you just agree.
I guess abortion is settled, then.
The USA has thousands of international agreements that are not treaties, and treaties are becoming more rare. Since 1939, by one count, 90% of international agreements have been ‘agreements’ rather than treaties.
An agreement gets the status of a treaty when Congress wants it to.
He'd make an excellent secretary of Labor under president Walker.....he could even donate his meager salary to charity!!!
and that’s the problem
Cruz is done if he votes for this. Maybe he is the only one who doesn’t realize this.
Good luck trading with Vietnam.
Free trade is what has caused the U.S. to de-industrialize and become dependent on foreign countries.
Actually, it’s offshoring that’s caused that problem, not free trade. I applaudd Trump for bringing attention to the problem!
He’s another Ivy League globalist who has given good lip service to Christian values as a way to get votes.
Nobody is making $60 an hour on the line anymore. GM starts at like $14 an hour.
Free trade makes America stronger. Protectionism is awful.
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