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Accepting the Reality That Hillary is Anything But Inevitable
Huffington Post ^ | 5-25-2015 | Nick Desai

Posted on 05/25/2015 9:45:48 PM PDT by murron

It's time to say out loud what we all already know. It's not Hillary. It just isn't. After the inspired and historic leadership of President Obama, we don't want his runner up from 2008. After the genuine and authentic article, we don't want the 3D printed likeness, no matter how realistic it may appear.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2016; clinton; democrats; hildebeast; hillary; obama; tedcruz
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To: dp0622

There is no candidate set against amnesty......none whatsoever regardless of the tune they might be singing...once in they will carry the global agenda which is to continue to bring in 3rd world and foreign employees....that is not going to be stopped because their’s nobody willing to stop it.


21 posted on 05/25/2015 10:15:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: murron

“Inspired and historic”? OMG! Drink some more Kool-Aid, dumbass. This know-nothing, do-nothing, hasn’t inspired anything more than a case of crotch-rot.

I never thought I’d see another president in my lifetime worst than Jimmy Carter.

Obama and the wookie beat Jimmy hands down.


22 posted on 05/25/2015 10:16:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (If Al Sharpton would pay his taxes, two million kids could eat school lunch for one year)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

as scary as it sounds I know people that think Obama is inspiring speeches and is likeable. They do not feel the same about Hillary. I can see Obama fooling people with charisma. I cannot see that with Hillary at all. It is a world of difference


23 posted on 05/25/2015 10:18:24 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: caww

I am hoping Cruz will explain his position on free trade pact in a way that will alleviate people’s fears. I plan on voting for him


24 posted on 05/25/2015 10:22:38 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: murron

“He (Obama) raises our heart rate and makes us see the best of each other”

‘Nick Desai’: is this Chris Matthews nom de plume? This comrade is flaming gay for Barry.

“Comrades! I have glorious news for you! We are deeply in love with Dear Leader. Let us apply our lips to Big Bro’s posterior in thanks for our new, happy lives!”


25 posted on 05/25/2015 10:23:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: All

Now, the Dems are not looking for advice from me, but so what? I’m gonna give it anyhow. Dump Hillary early because if you don’t, how long will it take you to ramp up your machine without her? Then again, you’re just arrogant enough to try to ram her through.


26 posted on 05/25/2015 10:23:28 PM PDT by tenger (Slow down for turtles.)
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To: murron

What a lame article


27 posted on 05/25/2015 10:25:19 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Worst President in 100 years. Totally symbolic and created a socialist wonderland for his worthless lemming followers. It would be so refreshing if someone asked her how she would be like Obama and different from him...without mentioning gender or race.


28 posted on 05/25/2015 10:31:09 PM PDT by MHT (,)
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To: murron

Yea they’ve got to start thinking about plan B now that it looks like the Jebbernaut the Hindenbush isn’t going to be her designated loser.


29 posted on 05/25/2015 10:35:39 PM PDT by Helvan
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To: dp0622

I agree it’s a world of difference, but the perpetual “if only we got the right person in charge” + “we’re here electing the first woman and it’s historical” + “look at how much experience she has” memes are non-ignorable.

For one hideous example: If the election were held today she would kick the crap out of Jeb Bush. If the election is held in 18 months and Hillary’s image is rehabilitated and her opponent is Jeb Bush....I think she would win.

I’ll stipulate that to you and me, she’s utterly nauseating. To those who love and adore her every move and have done so for the past 6 years and think she was cheated out of what was righteously hers, I honestly do not think this latest pile of corruption stuff is that much of a wave off.


30 posted on 05/25/2015 10:37:11 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: dp0622
I think you're absolutely right, Hillary is beatable. My fear is that she will not be nominated. If nominated she will have nothing but money on her side which she will use to run one of the dirtiest campaigns in American history because she must take refuge in relativism, Republicans are bad too. She will spend to bring down the Republican candidate to her level but I doubt there is enough mud which can be thrown to compensate for her deficiencies.

The author misconceives the excitement in 2008 for Obama with some "authentic" ability in that candidate. He can deliver a speech very well and, contrary to conventional wisdom on these threads, he speaks well contemporaneously but it was not Obama's soaring rhetoric, not his ideas which were vapid (hope and change) but the color of his skin and his opposition to the war in Iraq which made leftists' hearts pound.

Both his color and his opposition to the war vindicated everything leftists stand for. Obama was the walking embodiment of their rationalization for existence and persistence in socialist nostrums which simply do not work: Republicans are racists and they are not.

Obama's opposition to the war, in contrast to Hillary's support for the war along with the support of the entire Democrat establishment excepting Ted Kennedy who endorsed Obama, served as absolution to the left for its mortal sin of initially supporting George Bush's war. That sin was compounded by the fact that the establishment's initial support for the war was cynical and calculated in the extreme, they, Hillary foremost among them, had been caught on the wrong side of the first Gulf war and would not make the same political misstep again.

Hillary obviously does not enjoy the same blind support of the media that twice put Obama into the Oval Office. It may even be that many elements of the establishment media will feel that they must vindicate themselves by exposing some of the more egregious excesses of Clinton, Inc. In other words, the same psychology which affects leftist voters will also affect leftist journalists. There is a palpable need for redemption in the fourth estate.

With every passing day, it becomes clearer and clearer that we conservatives must understand The "intellectual" Left as opposed to ethnic voting blocs is not so much a political movement but an emotional and psychological phenomenon which must be dealt with at that level.


31 posted on 05/25/2015 10:40:17 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

wow. You really nailed it. they basically had to vote for a black man to prove they weren’t racist. But now we will have a Republican saying he would have been against invading Iraq while Hillary voted for it. Interesting.


32 posted on 05/25/2015 10:48:52 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: caww
If Virginia is truly blue, then it is because liberals are raging hypocrites.

Lots of liberals moved to DC to work for the new administration. They could have settled in Democrat strongholds like DC or Maryland, but instead they chose to live in the decent, crime-free neighborhoods of Virginia.

Liberals talk up public schools but send their evil spawn to private schools. They hate gun owners, but they like the relative calm of a state that values the 2nd Amendment.

33 posted on 05/25/2015 10:56:56 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: caww

34 posted on 05/25/2015 11:04:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Shadow44

“The thing about Hillary is, the ‘Rats bench is pretty thin otherwise.”

As it was when they dredged up Carter, Clinton, and Obola.


35 posted on 05/25/2015 11:22:27 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: MHT

“Worst President in 100 years”

Worst president ever.


36 posted on 05/25/2015 11:25:35 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: murron

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! The Demadweeds think they can guilt Hillary out of the race.

Fat chance. She’ll burn down Washington DC first.

Can you say, “900 FBI files”?


37 posted on 05/25/2015 11:30:06 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: tenger

“Now, the Dems are not looking for advice from me, but so what? I’m gonna give it anyhow. Dump Hillary early because if you don’t, how long will it take you to ramp up your machine without her?”

Honestly, I’d think Bernie Saunders has a better chance of winning that Satan’s Prom Queen. Bernie is what he is, he is honest about it and despite me disagreeing with him seems to be an honorable guy. He doesn’t make my skin crawl when I see him on TV


38 posted on 05/25/2015 11:35:15 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: murron

I think not


39 posted on 05/25/2015 11:36:06 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Shrimp Egg Foo Young- A tasty dish! gravy on the side please)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; dp0622
You are quite right, the institutional and structural realities confronting Republican presidential hopes are daunting in the extreme. They are so problematical that I have noted that this might well be the last presidential election in which a Republican candidate has a chance of overcoming demographics with issues.

You have noted some of the problems such as the yawning gap in the electoral college and the recent erosion of several states which should be solidly in the Republican column. Immigration has performed as expected and it is probable that in generations to come conservatism will be simply washed away by this tsunami of immigrants. We have also the institutional problems of an educational establishment which is quite proficient at churning out leftists. We have created an entitlement culture which is very difficult to overcome when confronted only in November. We are funding the left with government money at every turn and we are surprised that we cannot win elections with a top-down effort lasting only 90 days every four years.

We think we are right on the issues and we cannot understand how the unwashed could be so terribly deluded. We do not understand that they do not vote on issues, they vote on ethnicity, race, religion and, of course, their pocketbooks. They vote according to the data they receive from a media determined to be politically correct. They vote according to the way they have been educated. They vote according to the way they are unionized and this is just one area among so many in which an evil triangle trade exists between the institution, the federal government or state government treasury and the voter. We have in recent years seen the emergence of crony capitalism which has bought off the establishment in the Republican Party and ultimately divided our strength.

None of this can be defeated by a top-down campaign-except perhaps one last time.

We have a combination of weak candidates on the Democrat side, strong potential candidates (apart from Jeb Bush and other Rinos) on the Republican side. We have a bad economy getting worse and we have a foreign policy in shambles. Against all this the Democrats offer more class warfare and they are shaping together some sort of race demagoguery. That platform is stale and might not be enough to overcome an energized white middle-class.

We will not be facing a black Messiah, the embodiment of absolution for all the sins of America, the man who was politically correct on Iraq war, we will be facing a woman who is inept on the stump, unlikable, loaded with baggage, vulnerable in virtually every respect. She will have only money and structural advantages noted above. Finally, this is not her time.


40 posted on 05/25/2015 11:36:13 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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