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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Device Guard, a New Feature That Could Kill Malware Forever
Softpedia ^ | 04/22/2015

Posted on 04/22/2015 5:53:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dayglored

This seems to be offering a way to implement the same kind of protection to applications that Secure Boot does for the OS Kernel.


41 posted on 04/23/2015 7:38:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: zeugma; Swordmaker
> I won't take anything Microsoft says about securing their operating system seriously until they get rid of the concept of things being executable based on their name.

Well... in MSDOS days the file extension meant something about how to execute it, but not so much under Windows. Any file with an executable extension (exe/com/bat/scr/msc/...) is executed based on what the first few bytes look like, and no significance is placed on the extension with regard to HOW it is executed. You can rename FOO.EXE to FOO.BAT or FOO.SCR or any other executable extension and as long as it's got a given signature in the first few bytes, it'll get executed correctly.

Microsoft borrowed this feature from Unix/Linux, where executables have the 'x' perm set but typically do not have any extension, so the system figures out how to execute it using a variety of tricks including "magic" (/usr/share/misc/magic) values at the front of the file data. In Windows if you name a plain text file with one of the executable extensions, it generally won't execute (the system might try to read it as a script, depending).

But the real shame is that NTFS has plenty of execute permission control, and it's finer resolution than Unix/Linux. But the default for backward compatibility is to let any damn thing execute, so the control feature is usually wasted, at least on typical user systems.

*sigh*

42 posted on 04/23/2015 10:02:47 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Except it won’t. As long as you let users install software you’ll never get rid of malware. Users are the unclosable security hole and are the primary vector malware uses.


43 posted on 04/23/2015 10:04:44 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: discostu

If used properly it will prevent them from being able to run a program that claims to be from a know, trusted source (Microsoft, Adobe, etc.) but really isn’t.


44 posted on 04/23/2015 10:54:11 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

If used properly. Which is always the problem with users. Eventually they’re always going to install those damn emoticons.


45 posted on 04/23/2015 10:59:17 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: PLMerite

One question and they’ll hang up -
“what IP are you seeing these from?”


46 posted on 04/23/2015 11:00:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: discostu

I understand the sentiment. Sometimes I think “This would be a great job if we could just get rid of the users.”


47 posted on 04/23/2015 11:03:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MrB

It was on my landline that I’ve had since 1989. Near as I can tell it was just regular telemarketer robo-dialing.


48 posted on 04/23/2015 11:09:36 AM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: PLMerite

The first time I got one of those calls was in the early 1990s. It was before Algore invented the Internet. I had a 1200 baud modem that I only used to connect directly to other PCs.


49 posted on 04/23/2015 3:41:59 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Ray76
Sounds like each application is in a vm.

That's what I am thinking too. A cgroup, zone, container; etc..UNIX and Linux have been at this for quite some time now. Java does it now (under the hood).

50 posted on 04/23/2015 4:08:26 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Maurice Tift

I told them “I’m glad you called. I got a virus and someone got in my accounts and took all my money. How can you help?”

No words from them .......


51 posted on 04/23/2015 5:24:32 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: dayglored

AppLocker was available starting with Server 2008 R2, IIRC. It’s domain-controlled, so it’s not something a retail/home user can just turn on.


52 posted on 04/24/2015 6:59:04 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
> AppLocker was available starting with Server 2008 R2, IIRC. It’s domain-controlled, so it’s not something a retail/home user can just turn on.

Ah, so. Didn't have occasion to use it with my Server installations, at least until now, so I didn't realize that. Thanks.

53 posted on 04/24/2015 7:17:31 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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