Posted on 04/22/2015 2:40:00 PM PDT by EveningStar
They were both horrible, EVERYTHING about them were horrible.
At one point i could have sworn i saw a cinder block wall in engineering....
Yea and with Transwarp Beaming no need for starships anymore and with Bones curing death no need to die anymore.
And really, who needs the planet Vulcan anyways?
JJ is the BEST!!!!
A 120 year old Bird of Prey with a leaky warp core could destroy evey ship in the Imperial fleet.
;)
Gee....I liked Contact and Prometheus.
I appreciate the Original Series and even TNG.
Sometimes, this stuff is just entertainment. The entertainment comes from the writing, the effects, and the music.
As someone wrote, this is not Shakespeare. And to be honest, some of his plays sucked too.
They are just movies. If you are not involved in movie production, and if you are a “normal” viewer (not stopping and starting to see errors in the background) all of these are a decent way to spend an hour or two in fantasy land.
The only time in movies that really usually make me laugh are the gunfights (they shoot everywhere, on auto, without worrying about what they it), the fistfights (every fight I’ve been in and seen in person lasted about two punches and then someone hit the ground. Average people are not boxers!), and the way they portray journalists and photographers (my profession).
Pff... what good is your cloaking device when Lord Vader can sense exactly where your ship is?
You had me till you mentioned journalists. And I look at all the destruction of America caused by so called journalists. You might have well said lawyers.
Anyway it is all escapism. I dont take any of it extremely serious. If I’m entertained it’s all good. Gunfights are phony as are fist fights. I am entertained by some and some just go too far and I lose my ability to suspend reality.
Wouldnt do Vader any good with a torpedo beamed on to his bridge.
You do understand how shields work...Right?
:P
I think you have me wrong.
I mention journalists because movies and TV make them out to be hard working, researching, investigating.
They are the furthest from that. They are generally lazy. They are usually illinformed. And the TV ones a usually just plain stupid. Ask anyone who has worked with or around them, and you will get the same answer.
Photojournalists are generally pretty decent, low key guys who know their field. You cannot lie with a photo. But the movies usually make them out to be peppy little Jimmy Olsens. Most of their lives are assignments that say, “go get me a human interest photo that shows how sunny it is. And don’t bring me the same thing you’ve any single time in the past forty years.”
The new “reboot” ST movies appeal to, uh, the next generation. That may explain why the Suck level is turned up to 100.
The STAR TREK Movies, As Ranked By STAR TREK Con-Goers
http://badassdigest.com/2013/08/11/the-star-trek-movies-as-ranked-by-star-trek-con-goers/
01. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
02. Star Trek: First Contact
03. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
04. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
05. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
06. Star Trek (2009)
07. Galaxy Quest
08. Star Trek Generations
09. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
10. Star Trek Nemesis
11. Star Trek Insurrection
12. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
13. Star Trek Into Darkness
Ouch! Fans vote Galaxy Quest a better Trek movie than Into Darkness
http://www.blastr.com/2013-8-12/ouch-fans-vote-galaxy-quest-better-trek-movie-darkness
Galaxy Quest should be #2 (behind Khan). Then I’d go with 2009 Trek, Search, Into Darkness, Voyage Home. And the rest are unwatchable so really who cares.
the great flaw has been revealed...
Yeah, mostly country. When Nashville stupidly didn’t capitalize on country music by building venues (other than Opryland, which no longer exists) in the 1980s, Branson stepped up and did. I think Yakov Smirnoff built a theater there to do his “America, What a Country !” schtick. Curious that Andy Williams chose to build his theater there (and he lived there). Other than that, it’s mostly family-friendly fare.
Bronson. Oh, brother.
I’d go see Yakov. I had a Star Trek take on his act.
“In Mirror Universe, starship flies YOU!”
I miss classic Simpsons. That Andy Griffith with Bronson thing is pure gold.
This is one of the problems with liberal utopian sci-fi: They just can’t resist showing how awesome everything is going to be in the future, and how awful we are in contrast, but they never explain that their utopia is only possible because of the advanced science, not the moral superiority of the philosophy. And they never follow through on the consequences of their scientific advances. Transwarp beaming means no need for starships, following on from the universal use of replicators, meaning no need for merchant vessels, farming, or industry of any kind. IOW, the technology of Star Trek wouldnt make the society that they depict, so its all just an exercise in “wouldnt it be wonderful if...” with the “if” conveniently forgotten.
Nope. I liked the production design of ‘Dune’ and rate it as a positive (5.5/10), but ghastly story changes and ridiculous stylish elements, not to mention awful editing and clashes between director and producer rendered the whole thing a mess. I cannot tell you how much I hated ‘Prometheus’ suffice to say that Sir Ridley is off the Christmas card list. Permanently. And I didn’t like ‘Contact’ either. (Ditto the book.)
Did I say it had to be truly egg headed? No, but I need to have a little brain candy to properly Suspend Disbelief for a little while. When we are constantly pummeled with contrary physics, looney Chain of Command structures, broken canon, age differentials wildly at odds with TOS, and a basic contempt for TOS in general, it tends to get a little tired. JJ simply isn’t a good storyteller. In fact, he’s pretty much a hack. Go ahead, point at the Huge Box Office, but none of the dreck he has done stand up to second and third viewings. Hell, once was bad enough...
I had a few problems with Abrams ‘science’. Red matter being the worst offender. Roddenberry delved into fantastic with at least some scientific theory (most not all)
I would love to see the foundation trilogy made into film ( the later foundation novels feeling tacked on). Don’t know if it is doable without being a talky bore.
On a mostly unrelated note, I would like the BBC to make the James Bond series ‘by the books’ and in the correct time period they were written in.
Have to think about that some. Sit back and relish a cup of tranya and ruminate about it some more. Hmmm
Live long and prosper....(or is it perspire)
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