Posted on 04/17/2015 3:38:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
At the top of this year Magpul announced yet another ground-breaking product, the PMAG 17. An inexpensive polymer 17-round Magpul magazine for Glock 17s, the PMAG 17 was guaranteed to succeed even before it hit the market. About the only thing that could go wrong was if some small, but critical step or test was overlooked.
A small but critical mistake was made. Just a few days after the public release of the PMAG 17 Magpul has confirmed that some magazines are not feeding correctly when paired with other 9mm Glock pistols, specifically the Glock 19 and Glock 26.
Of all the challenges of building a Glock magazine with single new composite, issues like [will they] drop free, impact strength and feed lip retention were foremost on our mind, said Magpuls chief executive officer, Richard Fitzpatrick, in a Facebook announcement. The failure to feed came as a bit of a surprise to us and we immediately headed out to the range to investigate.
We found the problem. Without getting into technical details, some small, but critical geometry changes did not make it into the initial production molds. We should have caught this but no failures showed up on our factory guns during live fire testing and flaws in our internal processes of checks/balances did not flag the oversight as it should, he said.
Magpul is being extremely up-front about plans to address the problem and has published a schedule with how it will be proceeding.
Molds are being updated with the correct geometry as we speak and a replacement magazine body with the correct geometry should be available by May 4, 2015, Fitzpatrick said. These will be date coded 5/15 and later and will replace any magazine bodies in service of earlier manufacture. Just use your existing spring, follower and floor plate with the new body.
Customers who ordered magazines from Magpul, Brownells and Midway will be shipped replacement magazine bodies automatically. If you bought from those companies youre in the clear, all you have to do is wait. People who purchased their magazines locally will be able to pick up free replacement parts from the stores they bought from and of course, Magpul customer service will tackle this on a case-by-case basis if need be.
No company is above mistakes, but as an industry leader, Magpul is taking the initiative to show the world how companies can fix things when the inevitable happens. In short, we are updating all of the affected magazines released as quick as we possibly can, Fitzpatrick said.
Loaded, looks fine to me...
Everyone makes mistakes. It is how you deal with them which is important.
Of course you should not be making a lot of them.
I do recall getting some bad Glock mags from Glock. They were the ones with a brass colored metal visible in the feed lips. The good ones were changed to black metal.
What kinds of bullets are those? They aren’t copper jacketed.
>> Of all the challenges of building a Glock magazine etc etc
GLOCK does a really fine job of building Glock magazines.
I think I’ll stick with theirs.
Why take a chance with such a critical component?
They look like silvertips which I think actually are just regular jackets which are plated.
Ya thanks, I did a google on silvertip 9mm, looks just like them.
Around 1990 a local Wal-Mart began clearing out their Winchester Silvertips. I have no idea why as they were very popular at the time.
I bought several boxes and still have some. As good as they were I think there have been improvements made since then.
Are they 100% polymer, or are they metal with polymer cover?
Wow, they’ve been around that long.
I prefer Federal HST for all my carry.
Since I have a Gl19, I guess I’m just skarewed.
And I like Magpul. Oh well.
I am not sure the silvertips are still being made. I would buy something more modern if I were just starting out but I have so much 9mm and have so little money that I keep several mags full of silvertips in my Browning mags.
I no longer have a Glock but wish I did along with a bunch more.
9mm, blaaaaaa.
It needs to be .40 or bigger, preferably .45!!
Silvertips were made by Winchester (only) and, depending on the caliber, could have been a lead core with either all-aluminum jacket or plated copper jacket. They made a slew of ‘em. IIRC, the smallest 38-Spl W-W Silvertip bullet was 85 grains. (For short-barreled revolvers).
A local dealer takes his trade-in ammo and puts it in zip lock bags and sells it at a greatly reduced price.
I bought a large bag of Remington Golden Saber. It shot to the same place as the sights are sighted to in my Brownings.
I have not read anything on them that I recall but they sure look wicked.
I am pretty sure I paid only $10 for maybe 70-80 of them. I do keep the one gun I have ready by my bed loaded with the Golden Sabers.
I know the AR mags by Magpul function flawlessly in my rifle. I don’t use anything else. Ever.
HK would have said it’s our fault....and they hate us
Generally, I’d say choose the largest capacity pistol in the the largest caliber you shoot well...
But there is a good case to be made for the 9mm...
Without starting a “Mine’s bigger or better” war, take a look here: http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/7-reasons-cops-choose-9mm-40/
I carry a 9mm daily and have never felt under-gunned...
“To each his own”...
Agree on all points you made in your post. My current caliber / capacity is a Glock 31 ..... meets my local needs for my local threat with the 125gr Gold Dot HP’s from Speer .....
Stay Safe !
FBI is going back to 9mm. I carry Hornady critical defense.
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