Posted on 04/07/2015 10:29:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin
During the walk to the Fuller Lodge, the physicists discussed a recent spate of UFO sightings, and a cartoon in the New Yorker Magazine depicting aliens and a flying saucer. Although the topic of conversation moved on as the group sat down for lunch, Edward Teller recalls in the middle of the conversation, Fermi came out with the quite unexpected question Where is everybody? The result of his question was general laughter because of the strange fact that in spite of Fermis question coming out of the clear blue, everybody around the table seemed to understand at once that he was talking about extraterrestrial life.
In his account of the famed luncheon, Teller wrote I do not believe much came from this conversation, except perhaps a statement that the distances to the next location of living beings may be very great and that, indeed, as far as our galaxy is concerned, we are living somewhere in the sticks, far removed from the metropolitan area of the galactic center.
York recalled a somewhat more expansive discussion in which Fermi followed up with a series of calculations on the probability of earthlike planets, the probability of life given an earth, the probability of humans given life, the likely rise and duration of high technology, and so on. He concluded on the basis of these calculations that we ought to have been visited long ago and many times over.
(Excerpt) Read more at universetoday.com ...
Life is rare. Intelligent life is rarer still.
technological civilization doesnt last long enough for it to happen.
If God created man on earth then there is no reason not to believe that He didn't do the same on another similar planet in the universe.
If He did it at the same time as here on earth, then they're probably no further developed than we are and would explain why we've never been visited.
Look how far we came between 1910 and 1970, from horse and buggies to putting astronauts on the moon and computers.
Technologically did we advance further during that time as compared to all that's been created between 1970 and today? Is technology advancing at a slower pace now than back then with just enhancements on what was created before such as telephone and television technology.......
I'd sure like to be around a hundred years from now to see how far we can go............
NEXT TIME THEY COME VISIT, I GUESS
Inertesting fan fic, reminds me of Mythical detective Loki...
[ Besides, Bob Lazar told everyone the government already has alien spacecraft with gravity-propulsion systems, and I believe him (seriously, I do) ]
Either alines of advanced humans that came before us and are in hiding from us...
Earth is merely the only planet we know of with intelligent life. In a universe as vast as ours, the probabilities of only one planet having intelligent life, are zero.
Quite certain, this is it. The one and only.
Fermi was one of the handful of geniuses who was considered a genius by those most of us would consider geniuses; Luis Alvarez saw Fermi use a chalkboard and chalk to work out a solution to a complex problem using first principles, just as part of a discussion among a bunch of heavy-hitter physicists. But Fermi also spent almost all his adult years indoors, and as a consequence wasn’t in any position to judge whether “everybody” was here or not. :’)
Yes, I thought it was very good. The sequel was interesting, for me, completely different book. Haven't read any past that.
Different tastes. :-)
One scene with FoG that I really liked was kind of trivial. When the little spider crawled up on the TV, cut a hole and dropped in. Noise and light are heard, then some time later, two of them dropped out. I don't know why, but that always stuck with me.
As I get older I become more and more convinced that broadcasting our presence to the universe might not be the smartest thing to do.
Vast distance? Piffle! Means nothing to a pair of entangled particles, they can effect each other regardless of distance. Tremendous temporal separation? Piffle! A photon crosses the Universe remaining in the present moment of it’s creation, regardless of how far it travels, because it is not traveling anywhere, it is traveling a specific when.
You're welcome to your view, but considering that there are more stars in the universe than all the grains of sand on Earth, and that most of those stars have multiple planets orbiting them, the chances of this one little rock being the sole location of life, is absolute zero.
I'm sure it was a shocking experience for isolated primitives who encountered modern humans for the first time. Their entire worldview was shattered in an instant. Up until that moment, they were quite convinced that their little tribes represented the sum total of humanity on the planet.
I think there is a natural tendency to narrow our view of “life” to that which exists under only a set number of circumstances familiar to us. For example, if it isn’t bikini-wearing green Moon Women, what’s the point?
You use the word “abomination” on your home page. That would infer that you know God. All those “stars” you reference were created in less than a day. The God of the universe will one day return to this world, to rule for eternity. He will raise the dead. He will give us perfect bodies. No where in scripture does He speak of life anywhere other than heaven, hell, and earth. This is all He created. There is no other life of significant importance. To consider otherwise is a fools errand. And you to are welcome to your opinion.
All those stars you reference were created in less than a day. ....How long is a day to God?
Pose that question to God, I am not He.
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