Posted on 03/15/2015 11:04:54 AM PDT by Zeneta
At the end of the day, the debate comes down to "how committed" are those that claim to stand for Liberty and our Constitution.
If you seriously think only freepers stand between us and a dictatorship you are wrong. That’s so nutty it’s scary...
The mistake communists make is thinking this country has a history of being under the boot.
We don’t. Quite the opposite.
The United States is not third world, we’re not a black hellhole like Detroit, and we’re not the South Side of Chicago where corruption and intimidation work.
That’s not America.
The only people Obama would have on his side would be inner city blacks. He’d even lose union guys, dependent women and most white liberal elites. Yes, he would have illegals... but most Hispanics who have lived here a while time would stand with their fellow Americans. They know about living with dictators - they’re too smart to fall for that crap...
There's this language in my pocket constitution called the 22nd Amendment. He can't run unless the U.S. Constitution is amended.....
Maybe it’s best that you NOT know... just have faith. The county isn’t Detroit.
What did he have say during the Ebola scare?
Completely negligible.
He never considered it as a triggering event.
Even though he felt our governments position was stupid, it wasn’t nearly significant enough to tip the political scales.
He’s no fool.
“You have to consider that many, if not most, FReepers are old, decrepit and simply can no longer be as active as a 20-year-old in his prime.”
Ask yourself, ansel, “Is that true, or not?”
“Some, despite their posts of outright rebellion, are at the point of being too old to care much about what is going to happen tomorrow and do not even know if they are going to be on this Earth tomorrow. I, for example, am 71-years old with multiple health issues.”
Again, ansel, “True, or not?” Are you saying that I am not 71 with ‘multiple’ health issues? What is your point?
Are you saying that FReepers would ‘rise up’ despite their ages? With all of the damage and continual violations of the Constitution that Obemba has already done then why haven’t people already ‘risen up’? Why is he still in office?
“You were 68 when you joined FR, and like I said, you seem to think that FR is like you, old and cynical, and indifferent.”
ASSUME makes an ass out of you and me. You have assumed that I ‘joined’ when I was 68. How long did I lurk? Am I retread? Yes, while I am old I am anything but cynical. Indifferent? Nah, you again are assuming too much about me. I read have 1,000s of posts and formed opinions based upon reading those posts. In addition, daily aches, pains and health concerns trouble most older people so that they have a very difficult time concentrating on the ‘problems of the world’. Until you walk in their shoes, please do not condemn, ok? I am not at the point, yet, that I consider my health issues. I simply put them out of my mind.
With all of the outrage that I read on FR then why have the people not ‘risen up’ already? There are very few conservative activists on FR. Yes, there are a few conservative activists on FR but very few. With as many ‘members’ that FR has, do you think that there should me many more activists who actually go out into the community to make a difference? However, I again say that people’s ages limit their participation. For example, I cannot walk a city block without gasping for air. IF I would try to be active then I would actually be a detriment, wouldn’t I?
Have a nice day, ansel. ;-)
The only thing preventing a third term is obama’s failure to keep his supporters happy. He promised utopia and delivered nothing. Now if he were to deliver quickly on a big promise, such as the banning of private ownership of guns and ammo, the liberals and MSM would sweep him into office. Add a little civil war on the part of conservatives, and it would just make him even more popular since it would be touted by the MSM as a race war.
The biggest flaw in your step-dad’s argument: He presumes 0bama actually *wants* the job. He clearly doesn’t.
This is all just my opinion and the way I see it. 0bama is a slacker of the highest order. He’s never had to *really* work for anything in his entire life until he ran for President and he does not like it one bit.
He flees the White Hut at any opportunity: Golf, Vacation... heck, he even prefers fund raising over his official responsibilities.
Once the next President is elected, no matter who that may be, at the very moment 0bama gets the official signal that he is clear to leave, I bet all you will see is a cloud of dust about waist high where 0bama was standing a split second ago. He will be gone like a shot and won’t be looking back. He has some graft... er... demoncrap sponsored cush-job(s) lined up where his only responsibilities will be to appear before his adoring fans, play golf and get paid an obscene amount of money while doing it. He will be beyond the reach of conservatives, and any MSM who might ask him even mildly tough questions. He will be back in his “world” where everything goes his way and no one questions him.
There will be no 0bama “nth” term because he desperately, desperately does not want one. He quit caring awhile ago and is hanging on now only because he *has* to and moreso because he is surrounded by sycophants who work their asses off daily to keep him motivated and going. Without them, he’d probably wouldn’t bother getting out of bed until after 10 each day...
Goldman Sachs believes in "risk management".
Having Obama stage a coup or beg for a third term would be bad risk management.
Better to allow Clinton or Bush to takeover and continue the Goldman Sachs policies under the cover of a fake democracy.
What are your other sign up names?
There would nullify any and all parts of the US Constitution by executive order.
“If you seriously think only freepers stand between us and a dictatorship you are wrong. That’s so nutty it’s scary...
The mistake communists make is thinking this country has a history of being under the boot.
We don’t. Quite the opposite.
The United States is not third world, we’re not a black hellhole like Detroit, and we’re not the South Side of Chicago where corruption and intimidation work.
That’s not America.
The only people Obama would have on his side would be inner city blacks. He’d even lose union guys, dependent women and most white liberal elites. Yes, he would have illegals... but most Hispanics who have lived here a while time would stand with their fellow Americans. They know about living with dictators - they’re too smart to fall for that crap...”
GOPJ, I agree with absolutely everything you said. ;-)
However, I do not recall stating “only FReepers stand between us and a dictatorship” ;-)
Based upon what has occurred in Washington thus far.....I was speculating only. ;-)
Your step-father is winning this debate.
Goldman Sachs runs the country.
Conspiracy much?
Even Goldman is smart enough to recognize how far they can go.
I personally know former Goldman executives.
They are very clever, but not stupid.
“What are your other sign up names?”
Again, you are assuming. What makes you think that I have ‘other’ ‘sign up’ names? I did not say that! I asked a question, “How long did I lurk?” Then I asked another question, “Am I a retread?” I did not answer any of those questions. However, I shall answer those questions for you now. I lurked for several years. I do not have any ‘other’ ‘sign up’ names on FR. ;-)
Also, not even Dems or the MSM would tolerate such a flagrant, treasonous violation of the Constitution. How would they defend it? They have already started running out of excuses trying to cover for him and some have even started turning on him as well.
The final backstop would be the states. Which states would certify him on their official ballot as a Constitutionally valid candidate? And presuming any would (they won’t, they can’t), it would not be enough to garner the electoral votes needed.
I can conceive of no false-flag operation, terrorist attack, or world war III that would prompt the citizens of the country to suddenly agree, “Yes! Let’s toss 200 years of codified electoral procedure and violate the constitution!”
Here’s something you could tell your Step-Dad: Why would 0bama want to be an unconstitutional president with a target on his back aimed at by GOP, DEMS, MSM, you, me, Mr. Damm, Mrs. Damm and the whole Damm family -WHEN- he could (potentially) shake off the shackles of the presidency and play a more darker & sinister role behind the scenes, out of the spotlight, influencing/power-brokering at a pay-rate several orders of magnitude higher?
Good afternoon.
I have posted many times on this forum, that 0bama will leave office on January 20, 2017 @ 1200 hrs. Either vertical or horizontal, his choice.
Methinks there are many planted stories and false flags. Just to rate and catalog responses.
We live in interesting times...
5.56mm
Executive Order can not nullify any articles or amendments of the U.S. Constitution..........ESPECIALLY when it comes to a third term of a seated president..............That's pretty well defined.
I have invited him once again to this debate.
I’m here on FR because I don’t want it to be true.
I’d like to believe that there are enough people that will put out the effort to stop them.
I pray that there are enough patriots willing to prove me right.
And if they are not here, then I don’t know where they are, other than in my mind.
God help us.
Somewhere down thread someone brings up the point that Secretaries of State will not allow him on the ballot in very many states. In addition, he would lose simply due to that fact in many of the states that did. Only super-solid blue states would vote for him, and even in many of those, the alternate Democrat nominee would be able to get on the ballot thus splitting the Dem vote. That would assure that the GOPer, whoever that is, will win the presidency.
There is no reason to fear that type of coup.
Supreme Court involvement would not be needed, but not even Ginsberg would vote with Zero in such a case.
Here’s something you could tell your Step-Dad: Why would 0bama want to be an unconstitutional president with a target on his back aimed at by GOP, DEMS, MSM, you, me, Mr. Damm, Mrs. Damm and the whole Damm family -WHEN- he could (potentially) shake off the shackles of the presidency and play a more darker & sinister role behind the scenes, out of the spotlight, influencing/power-brokering at a pay-rate several orders of magnitude higher?
This is my position.
And he will say, ultimately, nobody really cares.
I say that we do care and our numbers are greater than theirs.
He will say, so what.
0bama and the communists own the media and the voters.
I can’t believe that the masses are that stupid.
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