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Kerry: Climate Change an ‘Elementary Truth’ – Like the Laws of Gravity
cnsnews ^ | March 12, 2015 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 03/12/2015 8:56:52 PM PDT by PROCON

(CNSNews.com) – That climate change is happening and that humans are largely responsible should be as universally accepted as the law of gravity, Secretary of State John Kerry suggested Thursday.

“When an apple falls from a tree, it will drop toward the ground. We know that because of the basic laws of physics,” he said in a speech at the Atlantic Council in Washington. “Science tells us that gravity exists, and no one disputes that.”

“So when science tells us that our climate is changing and humans beings are largely causing that change, by what right do people stand up and just say, ‘Well, I dispute that’ or ‘I deny that elementary truth?’ ”

Any yet some do, Kerry said, pointing – without naming the state – to recent reports claiming that state officials in Florida had banned the use of the term “climate change” in official documents. (Florida Gov. Rick Scott has denied the claim.)

“Literally a couple of days ago, I read about some state officials who are actually trying to ban the use of the term ‘climate change’ in public documents because they’re not willing to face the facts,” he said.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangehoax; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gruberwarming; hanoijohn; johneffinkerry; johnkerry; kerry; liberalagenda; secstate; tehranjohn; traitor
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To: John S Mosby

See the tagline.


21 posted on 03/12/2015 9:17:37 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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To: PROCON

22 posted on 03/12/2015 9:20:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: John Valentine; babygene

Gravity is provable. Question: How many different formulas and ‘theories’ are there? Answer: ONE.
How many varying/differet/unresolved variables and or coefficients to ‘tweak the model’ are there? Answer: NONE

On the other hand - there are a wide number of different Global Warming Models, with a wide number of different assumptions as to ‘forcing functions’, what other factors and how significant (or insignificant) are the factors, etc.

The science on Global warming will be ‘settled’ when there is a SINGLE model that the majority of scientist accept, and that model can be used to explain the temperature 2000 years ago, 1000 years ago, 500 years ago...before anyone would accept that the model can predict what the temperatures are likely to be in 20 to 50 years. At present, NONE of the models can even explain the cooling (1400’s to 1800’s) to include mini-Ice age that occurred in the 1600’s.


23 posted on 03/12/2015 9:20:34 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: PROCON

Bet Kerry’s college grade in science was about as good as his grade in American history, C- at best.


24 posted on 03/12/2015 9:22:46 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: PROCON

Well maybe a super volcano will erupt and kill half the planet, but man has nothing to do with it.


25 posted on 03/12/2015 9:23:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PROCON

“It is, indeed, one of the biggest threats facing our planet today.”

Well A$$hole if it such a big threat why did your master fly all the way to LA spewing tons of carbon in the process for such a trivial matter of importance as to appear on a teevee program and raise political cash.

Me thinks you are just one big ******* liar.


26 posted on 03/12/2015 9:23:18 PM PDT by A message
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To: PROCON

The law of gravity breaks down when it comes to dark matter and energy.


27 posted on 03/12/2015 9:25:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Thumbs up— excellent.


28 posted on 03/12/2015 9:28:21 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PROCON

Can’t Kerry come up with something new? Biden already used this. Oh I forgot, this is the talking point this month. Last year it was Global Warming was messing with gravity.


29 posted on 03/12/2015 9:32:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: PROCON
The Fifth Law of Thermodynamics:

"It shall be a capital crime to question Gruber Warming"

30 posted on 03/12/2015 9:33:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Vineyard

“Gravity is provable.”

My point was that GOD is responsible for the laws of nature, and that would be disputed on it’s face.

Going further, there are theories being advanced by some quantum physics’s that there an infinite number of parallel universes where even our laws of physics break down. So in that regard even “gravity” isn’t provable or a settled science.


31 posted on 03/12/2015 9:41:20 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Vineyard

Your critique of climate modeling is more sound than your understanding of gravity.

How many theories of gravity are there? Well there was Aristotle’s which was wrong, Newton’s which is approximately right (close enough for most earthbound engineering projects), and Einstein’s which is even better since it gets things like the precession of the orbit of Mercury right and predicts the existence of black holes, which observationally seem to exist. But it probably isn’t really right either — there are adequate reasons to believe that the really correct theory of gravity is a quantum theory not a classical theory — so there’s also Rovelli’s correction of the Barrett-Crane model and loop quantum gravity (favored by Smolin) competing to give the needed correction. (Which might end up dispensing with the need for “dark matter” and “dark energy” to explain anomalous gravitational observations of the universe in bulk that can’t be accounted for with Einstein’s theory and the matter we all know and love.)


32 posted on 03/12/2015 9:41:32 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: PROCON

Peer review John. It’s a basic tenet of the scientific method. Everything is falsifiable.


33 posted on 03/12/2015 9:47:08 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: The_Reader_David; Vineyard
Thanks to both of you for bringing real scientific explanations into this discussion!

My non-scientific mind revels in your truths.

34 posted on 03/12/2015 9:54:31 PM PDT by PROCON (Always Give 100% --- Unless you're donating blood.)
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To: smokingfrog

Kerry’s faggotry is an elemental truth.


35 posted on 03/12/2015 10:14:34 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: PROCON
I thought Lurch was busy kissing Iranian ass. Where does he even find the time to opine on global warming?
36 posted on 03/12/2015 10:34:59 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: PROCON

I would have been laughed out of high school science class for saying something that stupid. By the teacher.


37 posted on 03/12/2015 10:59:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: PROCON
Does kerry understand gravity?


38 posted on 03/13/2015 12:08:25 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: PROCON
“When an apple falls from a tree, it will drop toward the ground. We know that because of the basic laws of physics,”

Nope, we know that because we have the ability to watch it happen, over and over and over.

If a native, living in a hut, and never heard of Newton, physics, or the law of gravity, saw an apple fall to the ground, he would know that fruit, falling from a tree, falls toward the earth not the sun, because he has experienced it.

When it is 10 degrees below zero, and some damn fool tries to tell me it is because I used my snow blower and put too much carbon into the air, I KNOW that this is bullship.

Since the average earthly temperature {to the extent that we can really measure it} has not increased for the past 18 years, they have now re-changed the name to "climate change".

We all agree that climate changes, so there are no climate change deniers, we just dispute the cause of the change.

39 posted on 03/13/2015 4:48:03 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: PROCON

co2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE IS THE effect....CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE cause... just the opposite of what the LIBTARDS AND PAID OFF “SCIENTISTS” ARE SELLING...

the sun heats the oceans and generates currents, which generate the weather and over time THE CLIMATE...

man’s impact on the CO2 level is negligable....volcanoes and methane from the earth itself are bigger factors... leave my HELLCAT alone...


40 posted on 03/13/2015 5:12:12 AM PDT by zzwhale
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