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CNN Anchor: ‘Our Rights Do Not Come From God’
cnsnews ^ | Feb. 12, 2015 | Curtis Kalin

Posted on 02/12/2015 10:19:21 AM PST by PROCON

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To: ConservingFreedom
The assumption of sovereignty by each of the original States was premised upon the recitals in the Declaration Of Independence.

What the Left-wing media want to define as rights are something very different--some of the very things that the Declaration, above, clearly identifies as abuses of the fundamental rights of the new settler nations.

Anyone can claim some nonsensical intrusion onto the basic rights of his neighbors, as a right; and corrupt politicians, temporarily in power, may so proclaim it; but the Declaration is a major document in sorting the resulting issues out. The tragedy is that almost no one, today, carefully reads it, in context. In speaking to Conservative groups, I used to regularly urge that patriots carefully read both it and the Constitution, at least once a year. It will pay dividends in more effective arguments.

William Flax

61 posted on 02/12/2015 10:55:42 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: PROCON

The left will never understand American exceptionalism until they find out that our rights do come from God.


The left will NEVER understand the foundational principles of America because they

REJECT

God, and that our rights come from Him.


62 posted on 02/12/2015 10:55:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DiogenesLamp

That’s stretching it a bit.

So if someone writes A.D. on a contract, the contract comes from the Bible?

One great thing about our Founding Fathers is that, while they were deeply religious, they understood the importance of allowing the worship of religions that weren’t Episcopal in nature.


63 posted on 02/12/2015 10:56:34 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: PROCON

Ugh. I had no idea there was another Cuomo out there. It’s bad enough that we had his father, Mario as governor of NY and now his brother, Andrew as governor, but another Cuomo? I am as sick of Cuomos as I am of Clintons.


64 posted on 02/12/2015 10:57:24 AM PST by wattsgnu
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To: qam1
Bible and Government

4 allusions to God in the constitution

Biblical basis of the US Constitution

65 posted on 02/12/2015 10:57:53 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: circlecity
Wow, Cuomo just jettisoned the entire moral justification for the American Revolution.

Indeed, the whole moral justification for accepting the power of Government, other than simply out of fear. It would equate our political institutions with those of every ancient or modern despotism, known to man.

66 posted on 02/12/2015 10:58:27 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: qam1
Who said any part of the Constitution comes from the Bible?

The FIRST founding document of this nation states: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Still no mention of the Bible, of course, but absolute affirmation that our Founders recognized that our rights do NOT derive from man.

67 posted on 02/12/2015 10:59:14 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: circlecity

and a lot of legal human history.


68 posted on 02/12/2015 11:01:12 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; PROCON
ConservingFreedom:" Maybe Mr. Cuomo flunked elementary civics.
The opening sentence of the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence clearly affirms":

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness "
#1) It was written by public servants who believed in 'service to the Nation"
#2) It was written without political parties who wanted "over reach" government, but who wanted to protect its' citizenry.
#3) It was written in Cursive. Andrew and Chris Cuomo can't read Cursive !

69 posted on 02/12/2015 11:01:49 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Oliviaforever

...or using the laws of other nations.


70 posted on 02/12/2015 11:02:03 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Good point.


71 posted on 02/12/2015 11:03:31 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Ohioan

The moral justification of the Revolution was the Coercive Acts.

The justification of establishing America as a Republic was the Bible.


72 posted on 02/12/2015 11:03:57 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: Billthedrill

Which God? Christianity is not the only source of moral philosophy and many if not most of the basic moral philosophy is derived from all of those earlier moral codes that were carried down through the centuries. Common moral truths and imperatives long predate Christianity and most of the common moral imperatives have existed in all societies and most religions since the beginning of recorded time. Even pagan tribes had moral codes, taboos and restrictions on behavior for the good of all. I have known many good, moral, and upstanding people over the years who have no particular belief in God, another deity, or any at all. That does not make them immoral, individual behavior that violates the accepted and lawful moral codes can make anyone immoral.


73 posted on 02/12/2015 11:04:55 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

I agree with this.

I think it’s possible to be moral AND Athiest. Doesn’t really happen a lot though.

Buddhism has moral codes people live by and they don’t necessarily believe in God or a God.

Our Founding Fathers came from different backgrounds: Purists, Episcopalian, Catholics, Humanists, etc. The greatness is what came from such a conglomeration of religious thought.


74 posted on 02/12/2015 11:10:28 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: PROCON
Liberal lie after liberal lie.

Only this one has gotten millions killed.

75 posted on 02/12/2015 11:10:46 AM PST by skeeter
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To: PROCON

Well, I wonder if Chris realizes that, with that statement, he is one very, very small step away from the “Fuehrerprinzip.” It is truly sad how ignorant of history, and thus of the nature of man, Chris and his generation is, or, if he isn’t, how criminally duplicitous he is.


76 posted on 02/12/2015 11:11:51 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: PROCON

If rights come from men, men can arbitrarily take them away.


77 posted on 02/12/2015 11:12:50 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: RJS1950
Our rights and our laws come from the Constitution...

Absolute, 100% undiluted bullshit.

The Constitution is written from a standpoint of our rights already being in existence. It also clearly states that the new federal government is not empowered to violate/infringe on certain of those rights.

Nowhere in the document does it claim to be the SOURCE of those rights.

78 posted on 02/12/2015 11:13:29 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: PROCON

We hold these truths to be self-evident....

if there is no self-evident truth...

Then all laws are arbitrary and therefore inherently irrational.. they have no reason they’re simply a whim of the historical moment...

And the Nazis at Nuremberg committed no true crime they broke no natural law..

They just violated the whim of other men... a whim that can change easily if the wind blows a different direction.

law of the dumb animal, law of jungle, law that only might makes something “right”


79 posted on 02/12/2015 11:13:34 AM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: RJS1950
Which God?

It doesn't actually matter. I am aware that Christianity is not the only source of moral philosophy. Aristotle realized this before Christ was born - Metaphysics, Book V. And I am aware that many people practice codes of morality without believing in God. My point is that in the absence of external authority these codes are arbitrary and foundationless. You're certainly free to disagree.

80 posted on 02/12/2015 11:14:02 AM PST by Billthedrill
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