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Why Women Are Rejecting “Perfect” Men
ironshrink.com ^ | September 18, 2014 | Shawn T Smith, Psy D

Posted on 02/07/2015 8:01:13 PM PST by ransomnote

A few weeks ago, psychologist Randi Gunther discussed the fact that women still initiate the majority of divorces, even after men dutifully followed women into the new millennium.

It wasn’t supposed to be this way. We men learned how to change diapers and cook risotto. We learned to watch for barely perceptible nods of approval before opening doors for women. We even learned to manscape, for goodness sake.

Women were supposed to be happy with the new variety of men. Yet they are divorcing us just like they divorced our insensitive forefathers. Professor Gad Saad reported that American woman initiate 69% of divorces; the most recent British statistic is 72%.

Dr. Gunther, who specializes in repairing relationships, described some of the unhappily divorced men she meets in her office:

“I am currently dealing with several of these great husbands. They are, across the board, respectful, quality, caring, devoted, cherishing, authentic, and supportive guys whose wives have left them for a different kind of man.”

Who is this “different kind of man,” and why do women quit their marriages to pursue him? Dr. Gunther continues:

“The women I have treated who have left their husbands for more ‘masculine’ men believed that their new relationships would be able to both excite and nurture them.”

Clearly, this new stud is virile. He’s exciting. He possesses something that the “perfect” husband does not.

Dr. Gunther didn’t say it, but I will: it sounds as if many of today’s perfect, sensitive, cherishing men are… how shall I put this… boring.

Who can blame women for being bored with men these days? Far too many of us have lost our masculine fortitude. That fortitude has nothing to do with being dominant or avoiding vacuum cleaners. It’s a product of solid values and strong backbones.

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KEYWORDS: divorce; marriage; masculinity; values
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To: Deagle
Now if he actually liked men, shame on you for not knowing that before getting married

Not every woman is promiscuous enough to rate men on some sort of libidinous scale. Or is this another failing of women, that they should know these things yet somehow have character and decency? I don't think he figured it out until later, by which time I just wanted to salvage my life.

Yes, I've seen men get cleaned out. But, it varies by state. Make no assumptions...
81 posted on 02/08/2015 1:34:39 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Deagle
People should STILL TRY to get married but unfortunately with many contractual precautions. I got married using the ancient and classic Jewish marriage contract called a “Ketuba”. It represents a major commitment both corporal and spiritual and is binding...something this “Peter Pan” never wanting to grow up generation even examines...
82 posted on 02/08/2015 1:38:12 AM PST by Netz
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To: Deagle
Well, I would have to ask who caused the problems for divorce?

1-He ran up major debts
2-He stopped bathing routinely
3-He started spending several nights a week doing role-playing games
4-We lived out in the sticks. I could bring home 30 bags of groceries, and he sit there and sip his coffee manfully while I unloaded the car.
5-He was a walking source of ignition. He had to be watched carefully lest he set the house on fire.
6-He drank. A lot. Every evening.

This doesn't sound like feminism run wild, does it?
83 posted on 02/08/2015 1:46:19 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: CorporateStepsister
So frankly, women SHOULD consider a career/job a priority and keep it no matter what.

Even if you marry a decent one who is pure of heart and adores you and your children, your life falls apart when he falls through an open manhole if you do not have a decent job. Never assume anyone will take care of you.
84 posted on 02/08/2015 1:49:22 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: MasterGunner01

American women arrogant, pushy, loud, obnoxious, angry, and vengeful.....

Yes, many of them are. I work with a couple of them too. One even vocally takes pride in being a b***h. She’s hard to be around 5 days a week but management puts up (and makes us put up) with it because she’s good in her position (which they say is hard to fill.)

I was told by a different loud, obnoxious (though not mean or overtly arrogant) female co-worker my “problem” is that I’m “quiet and humble” which others view as weakness. I’m thinking “What are we, in junior high still?”


85 posted on 02/08/2015 2:14:03 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Nepeta

Well, it does sound like you caught a bad one! In my case though...

1. She ran up major debts
2. She went to bars every night while I watched our son
3. She bedded every male she met at the bars.
4. She took trips to Vegas to meet with her boyfriend

Sounds like feminism to me. Yes, I caught a bad one and probably should have known better. This happened after 8 years of marriage with no problems that I knew about - mid life crisis on her part was my guess.

I guess it depends on way too many things to keep generalizing. Anyway, not all situations are so easy to classify, with that I agree!


86 posted on 02/08/2015 2:45:49 AM PST by Deagle (gardless of)
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To: ransomnote

despoused after 30 yrs. no infidelity either side. initiated by her.
mainly caused by stress when our business got taken out in ‘08.
she gof the house with no mortgage and a bunch of $, essentially all of
our assets. i also assumed 100% of the business debt. she went back to work in nursing. i got the opportunity to do a total restart with zero $ at age 56. best thing that ever happened to me. seven years later every penny of debt paid off, business great, doing it my way with no joint decisions.
will have to work till early 70’s before i retire but its ok. new boat being deluvered in spring. paid cash. lmao.


87 posted on 02/08/2015 3:10:32 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: RegulatorCountry

Women are losing control of this game because men are refusing marriage.
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There is some of that.

However, in a certain culture in the US it’s the women that refuse marriage, because they get paid taxpayers’ money for every kid they have.


88 posted on 02/08/2015 3:18:33 AM PST by octex
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To: WeatherGuy

manscape
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That’s the second posting on this thread that has used the term “manscape”. .....What the hell does that mean?


89 posted on 02/08/2015 3:36:01 AM PST by octex
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To: Tired of Taxes
Most men today don't want their wives to be homemakers raising the children. They expect their wives to provide a second income.

It is a double edge sword. If you have children, one income rarely provides for a family, at least not comfortably or in a safe area. Yet, If you have children, it can be damn inconvenient to not have one caregiver without another job.

90 posted on 02/08/2015 4:09:50 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Deagle
1. She ran up major debts 2. She went to bars every night while I watched our son 3. She bedded every male she met at the bars. 4. She took trips to Vegas to meet with her boyfriend Sounds like feminism to me.

That is really not feminism. All that could have easily happened in the 1940's or 50's

91 posted on 02/08/2015 4:18:50 AM PST by southern rock
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To: RegulatorCountry
Women are losing control of this game because men are refusing marriage.

Yup...I know lots of young guys who plan on never getting married...they see the few who have and the unbelievable crap they have to put with is scaring them off...

Not to be too graphic, but young women today think because they have a vagina they can control their married man by threat and not love...

Pop out a baby with your women and try and do the right thing by making her an honest woman, you give up your life...threats of divorce and forever child support...

In many cases babies have become weapons of control...

After all, the feminist taught them men are rapists and pigs...

92 posted on 02/08/2015 4:36:49 AM PST by Popman (Christ: My Cornerstone...)
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To: octex
That’s the second posting on this thread that has used the term “manscape”. .....What the hell does that mean?

It means you have given up your god given manhood by shaving your body hair to conform to your female mates perfect idea of a girlfriend with a penis...

93 posted on 02/08/2015 4:39:34 AM PST by Popman (Christ: My Cornerstone...)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Men just aren’t interested anymore in risking all for a one-sided, contentious relationship.

That's the truth! I can do bad all by myself. I don't need any help.

94 posted on 02/08/2015 4:56:24 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: ransomnote
men dutifully followed women into the new millennium

And therein lies the problem. It's the wussification of our society.

95 posted on 02/08/2015 4:58:30 AM PST by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: ransomnote
Women want to be in a working marriage. Why must a marriage work? Who first conjoined the terms marriage and work?

Probably some female editrix hag at Cosmopolitan Magazine.

96 posted on 02/08/2015 5:10:39 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: ransomnote
if you're a man, the last thing you want to marry is a liberal woman. it'll be a nonstop stream of crazy batsh*t drama

problem is, only 24% of american women are conservative or republican and the 33% self identifying as 'independent' would be a crap shoot ( source )

keep in mind guys... American women make up only 5% of the women on the planet. as a bonus, the vast majority of women outside the US don't look like rosie o'donell or shamu, actually like being feminine, and really do like men.

 


97 posted on 02/08/2015 5:11:47 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SamAdams76
I disagree entirely. This guy hit on something in the article and didn't even realize it. When "steve" was instructed to go to a baby shower, he refused and said he was going golfing. He did what HE wanted to do. A man's desire is not to please a woman, as the pussified assclown who wrote this article says.

A man's desire is to be a MAN. Being a male in today's society is nearly criminal. Men are not withdrawing from marriage and higher education because we "feel" that we aren't good enough. It's because we KNOW we are too good to subordinate our lives, goals and ambitions to some insufferable feminist bitch.

98 posted on 02/08/2015 5:14:01 AM PST by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: 38special

LOVE Rational Male. Been reading it for a while now.


99 posted on 02/08/2015 5:20:45 AM PST by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: nonliberal
A man's desire is to be a MAN. Being a male in today's society is nearly criminal. Men are not withdrawing from marriage and higher education because we "feel" that we aren't good enough. It's because we KNOW we are too good to subordinate our lives, goals and ambitions to some insufferable feminist bitch.

bump...

100 posted on 02/08/2015 5:29:52 AM PST by Popman (Christ: My Cornerstone...)
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