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Officials say touchdown by Patriots T Nate Solder came on illegal play (NE v Indy)
sporting news ^ | 01.30.15

Posted on 01/31/2015 7:56:13 AM PST by Perdogg

Deflate-gate isn't even behind us and already the Patriots are under more scrutiny. The touchdown New England tackle Nate Solder scored in the AFC Championship game apparently came on an illegal play, according to a The Boston Globe.

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To: grania

I wasn’t making any judgement on you or Sherman there at all. I merely corrected a minor error regarding his position. But if you’d like to make a donation to my finances…


81 posted on 01/31/2015 9:24:58 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Night Hides Not

I think that story is backwards....rumor has it that she was cheating on him with another player. I spent a lot of time in Seattle and this is the scuttlebutt. The other player, I forget his name is no longer in Seattle.


82 posted on 01/31/2015 9:26:58 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coups)
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To: Night Hides Not

The timing of the split was that it occurred before she found out she was pregnant. He was already with Gisele when it became known.

I’m disappointed that he was messing around before being married, but your particular argument misses. The overall situation, however, is illustrative of but one of the reasons why it is a bad idea to be engaging in premarital sex.


83 posted on 01/31/2015 9:29:31 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Night Hides Not
Pretty funny coming from a guy who calls himself "Night Hide Snot"
84 posted on 01/31/2015 9:31:05 AM PST by Gargantua ("...Fee tine a mady..." ;^)
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To: lepton

Sorry, should have been clearer. I was talking only about Russell Wilson.


85 posted on 01/31/2015 9:31:54 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: M Kehoe

Cheatin’ since the 70s. Was a Dolfan back then and remember it well.

As I’ve posted before, I’d root for the Chinese National Team to beat the Patriots.


86 posted on 01/31/2015 9:35:04 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Night Hides Not; Aria

Actually...my mistake. I should have been responding to Aria.


Aria:

The timing of the split was that it occurred before she found out she was pregnant. He was already with Gisele when it became known the child was his.

I’m disappointed that he was messing around before being married, but your particular argument misses. The overall situation, however, is illustrative of but one of the reasons why it is a bad idea to be engaging in premarital sex.


87 posted on 01/31/2015 9:38:27 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Ok, thanks for the info.

Now I don’t like him for all my other reasons. :-)

GO SEAHAWKS!


88 posted on 01/31/2015 9:51:58 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coups)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I was speaking of defensive linemen, not linebackers. As an undersized end over half-a-hundred years ago I had to block down on defensive tackles for the 7, 8 and 9 series, giving away 50 to 100 pounds most of the time. Quickness gets you on him before he can gain momentum, and good body position, leg drive and leverage (head to the correct side) helps move him some. With a charging linebacker you try to take him out at the knees- a very different situation. Of course the guys I played against were not NFL quality; neither was I!

Man, this geezer misses football!


89 posted on 01/31/2015 9:54:26 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: safeasthebanks

If the formations were not legal than a penalty should have been called.


90 posted on 01/31/2015 10:01:00 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: Right Brother

Jealous much? You hate us cause you ain’t us.


91 posted on 01/31/2015 10:01:56 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: lepton
Your silly link is full of BS.
the larger implication of his work — that any major outlier, if shown to be statistically significant, should be seen as evidence of rule-breaking.
Sharp never stated any such thing. Here is what he posted:
Could the Patriots be so good that they just defy the numbers? As my friend theorized: Perhaps they’ve invented a revolutionary in-house way to protect the ball, or perhaps they’ve intentionally stocked their skill positions with players who don’t have a propensity to fumble. Or perhaps, still, they call plays that intentionally result in a lower percentage of fumbles. Or maybe it’s just that they play with deflated footballs on offense. It could be any combination of the above.

But regardless of what, specifically, is causing these numbers, the fact remains: This is an extremely abnormal occurrence and is not simply random fluctuation.

But then again, one would not expect cheaters and their supporters to have a the moral decency to be honest about anything.

Is a bold faced lie the best cheat you can come back with?

92 posted on 01/31/2015 10:04:08 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: lepton

So they lined up in an illegal formation. That’s not legal. And the NFL said so, after the fact. This is what happens when you push the envelope beyond the intent and spirit of the rules, nobody knows what the heck is going on and in this case, nobody at the time caught that it was illegal. But it was.


93 posted on 01/31/2015 10:11:08 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: lepton
Excuse me while I pants you with this from your statistical experts - LoL!

We had Brazil favored to win Tuesday’s World Cup semifinal against Germany

94 posted on 01/31/2015 10:16:02 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TomGuy

NE may be the Pats, but it seems more so that the NFL fans who plunk down thousands of dollars a season are the real Patsies ....


95 posted on 01/31/2015 10:19:33 AM PST by mikrofon (Super Bowl XLaX ?)
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To: Perdogg

im a ravens fan, but the ravens were beaten fair and square. they were up 14 not once but twice and have no one to blame but themselves for losing that game.
i do think the pats might not be the perennial power that they are if they had to play the ravens, steelers, and bengals twice a year instead of the jets, bills, and dolphins.


96 posted on 01/31/2015 10:24:35 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: cp124

I never said they were illegal.


97 posted on 01/31/2015 10:28:46 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Right Brother
1. Are you counting playoff games?

2. Vince Lombardi's Packers played 12-games seasons for his first two years, then 14-games seasons for the rest of his career. The odds of the Packers winning an average of 14 games per season in that stretch would have been 0.

3. Vince Lombardi coached for ten years in the NFL with the Packers. They won five NFL championships in that stretch. Come back and tell me about "consistency" when the Patriots pull off something like that.

98 posted on 01/31/2015 10:32:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: lepton

In the years leading up to Belichek’s hiring with Cleveland, the Browns were in the playoffs in 1980, 82, 85,86,87,88 and 89. It’s true that in 1990 they were 3-13 but in Belichek’s five years, they made the playoffs once and they were 5-11 in his last year which was 1995 - leading to his firing and the Browns moving to Baltimore. The Browns franchise has been a disaster ever since they came back into the league.

Since Brady has been on the Patriots team, when he hasn’t been able to play for some reason, Belichek has a losing record - I believe. These guys coaching in the NFL by and large are not geniuses. They all run the same offenses and defenses - with little nuances here and there. Their quarterbacks make them or break them - which is why so many of them have on again, off again relationships with their QB’s and also the reason that you see the same QB’s in the playoffs every year. It is the toughest position to predict success which is why Brady as a 6th round pick surprised some people and why so many 1st round QB picks flop. God knows we’ve seen a bundle of 1st round QB flops in Cleveland starting with trade of Warren, Ohio home grown hall of fame wide receiver, Paul Warfield, for the rights to draft Mike Phipps with the third pick in the 1970 draft. And he was one of our smaller flops - at least he played and remained in the league for 12 seasons. It looks like Johnny Manziel - who seems to be able to drink like Kenny Stabler - might not be able to play like him.

Belichek unceremoniously cut Bernie Kosar, a Youngstown, Ohio kid, a local legend who won a college national championship as a freshman with the University of Miami, graduated from there in 3 1/2 years, manipulated his draft status so he could come to Cleveland in the supplemental draft of 1995 and then led the Browns to 5 consecutive playoff appearances and a couple of AFC championship games. Belichek treated him like a dog at the end of his career. He was a young coach at the time so I chalked it up to youthful ignorance. But now I think that’s just who he seems to be. I also can’t stand what Pete Carroll did to the USC program but I do like Russell Wilson so I hope that Seattle pummels the Patriots. But really I couldn’t care less. I’d rather watch two good high school teams play - where players play their a**es off and coaches coach their a**es off - for the love of the game - and where every play made isn’t celebrated like someone just cured cancer.


99 posted on 01/31/2015 10:36:21 AM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Snowbelt Man

I meant the supplemental draft of 1985.


100 posted on 01/31/2015 10:41:10 AM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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