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As a mom, this is hard for me. This is my little girl-- although she will soon be 17 and a junior in HS. I hear how the military under Obama is low on morale and not treated with respect. How those in charge are liberal political cronies. She won't graduate until 2016, but I wouldn't want her serving under Hillary. I'm uneasy and proud at the same time.
1 posted on 01/19/2015 11:04:04 PM PST by MacMattico
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Congratulations on the successful upbringing of a great American citizen, whatever she decides to do!


2 posted on 01/19/2015 11:09:28 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Hillsdale College.

Liberty University.

Two great conservative choices for a degree. Let her plink with firearms and get her ccw and not have to take orders from the growing # of lesbians and gays in the military, or take orders she morally objects to, in addition they are crushing out real Christians there now, so NO WAY is this a viable option anymore.

She is fortunate to have an adult in hs on her side. No guarantee she’ll have one over her in the military. They can’t protect them as well if someone targets her to harass.


3 posted on 01/19/2015 11:09:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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As a former Zoomie, I ask, why not the Air Force?

Today’s Air Force is a “high-tech” environment. They need MINDS, not fodder, to operate today’s equipment.

Although, from personal experience, I would suggest college FIRST, with ROTC, then a commissioned future in the Air Force.

Any Air Force ROTC Program is fine, but my personal suggestion is to take a close look at Purdue. They have a LONG history of turning out fine Air Force officers, including women. I know several, including nephews, that have gone through it, and have good careers now.


4 posted on 01/19/2015 11:11:45 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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What about going to college with ROTC and joining after college, as an officer? She’d have a lot more clout as an officer, more of a chance to make decisions instead of being a grunt, and she might have more personal safety. (I hate to bring it up but you know that rape is an issue in the military now.) She’d also be a bit older and possibly better able to fend for herself.


5 posted on 01/19/2015 11:12:21 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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The young woman you describe may not be asking for permission, she may be preparing you.


6 posted on 01/19/2015 11:12:37 PM PST by Raycpa
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I could only suggest to look to the Bible as a guide.

I (nowadays, after my conversion), always look to the Bible as my guide first when considering “big decisions” such as this.

Of course, Scripture, applied to the situation, many times will guide me in a DIFFERENT direction than I first thought was “best”.


7 posted on 01/19/2015 11:13:35 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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I went “delayed entry” and a year later active duty under President Jimmy Carter who I did not have a high opinion of, but he was the duly elected leader. I don’t feel that the current person was duly elected or even eligible, making him quite a bit different. This is a man who ha backed Muslims to the hilt, let homosexuals and soon transgenders serve openly, forced chaplains to perform gay marriages, traded terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl, cut military pay & benefits and laid-off many good people. I wouldn’t join if I were 17 again, is all I can say.


8 posted on 01/19/2015 11:14:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Has she looked at the military academies?


9 posted on 01/19/2015 11:15:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Likely we need her most here at home.


10 posted on 01/19/2015 11:17:20 PM PST by norton (Airborne spook, 1st SFG)
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Have her study hard the ASVAB test books. Worth their weight in gold.


11 posted on 01/19/2015 11:17:24 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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Is she willing to fight the battles Obama wants to fight?
16 posted on 01/19/2015 11:46:28 PM PST by donna
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My daughter entered at 17 and just got out after 8. Don’t. Just don’t. Not until the communists, Liberals and Muslims are purged from military leadership. You would be sending her to be a tool of the left if you do.

It is bad in there. Real bad.


17 posted on 01/19/2015 11:48:40 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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I joined in the 70s and was called a “war monger” by some in my high school. No big deal, who cares what those idiots think or feel as it was my life. The same with your daughter.

I enlisted first as I did not have enough money to go straight to college. I took as many classes as I could while I was active duty (the Air Force has a tuition assistance program) and then used my GI Bill plus a job to finish after my first tour. I also joined AFROTC so when I earned my college degree I earned my commission. My two brothers and my sister did the exact same thing, enlisted then officer. That GI Bill helped us all. Even my nephew did it.

Jobs are hard to find and good jobs even harder. If she enlists, and even if she doesn’t make it a career she will be ahead in many ways. If she gets into a technical field she will have to have a security clearance and that alone will get her a good job in the civilian world. In many areas of our Country contractors have thousands of jobs requiring security clearances and they would rather hire someone right out of the military than pay the tens of thousands of dollars to have a clearance run from scratch.

With all the homosexuals and other things she may have to lay low and keep her mouth shut to survive the PC climate but it would be worth it in the end (IMHO). Those security clearances are more often than not a ticket to a great paying job.


18 posted on 01/19/2015 11:59:35 PM PST by OldMissileer (If facts mattered to people, they would be conservatives.)
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I recommend a college with an ROTC unit. The summer before her start as a freshman, she'll do her boot camp. She then takes ROTC classes along with her regular college classes in the fall. After completing freshman studies, she'll spend her summer as a cadet during military things before ROTC and classes for her sophomore year. More military training in the summer between sophomore and junior years. At sometime near the end of sophomore year or summer training she will be asked to declare if she intends to continue her ROTC studies that will result in a commissioned officer status. If she says yes, she will then sign the paperwork committing her to her final two years of ROTC and active duty service (four to six years) after graduation. Her junior, summer training, and senior years are paid 100% by the government. Upon graduation she will get her commission as an officer and first duty assignment.

Summary for a college ROTC commissioning path to an officer:
1. Four summer camps of military training.
2. Eight semesters (fall and spring) of ROTC training during the class years.
3. Last four semesters of ROTC are paid by government in exchange for a six year enlistment and active duty upon graduation. Depending on her job in the service branch, it can be four years’ active duty, one year in drilling reserves, and one year in non-drilling reserves. Some profession choices, due to the training involved, require six years on active duty.

20 posted on 01/20/2015 12:04:42 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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I'm retired USAF with 26+ years air traffic control, and I say ...
21 posted on 01/20/2015 12:15:38 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Former Air Force Jet Engine Mechanic.

Lots of excellent careers in the USAF, and some great advice here from the posters. Especially the part about college and ROTC.

I counselled my own kid, if you're gonna go in, get a degree and go in as an officer.

The climate in the military will change for the better. I served under Carter, Reagan, and Bush.

22 posted on 01/20/2015 12:44:02 AM PST by onona (Obama's entire term reads like a John Semmens post.)
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She should consider. ..Service Academies RTC and then Enlisting.

Any of the Service are a great start in life at any time.


23 posted on 01/20/2015 12:54:53 AM PST by The Klingon
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Great work on raising your daughter. One thing you need to remember is that even though Obama will be gone or nearly gone when she’s ready to enter. Regardless of who will be President in 2017, the effects of what Obama has done to the military in general will be around for a decade at least. So I wouldn’t count on a significant military culture change, if any.

My advice as an AF veteran would be to have her check out the Air National Guard in your state and see if there is some kind of long term program she can get into that would pay for or help with college.


24 posted on 01/20/2015 1:11:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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Have her wait until we are at least rid of the Marxist in the WH. I’d not let any child of mine serve under him in any way.

Ditto goes for Shillary.


25 posted on 01/20/2015 1:13:13 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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My sister entered the air force in about 1965 and spent 20 years in. At the time she entered the careers open to women were, nurse, teacher and homemaker. It’s not that bad now, but the air force will expose her to life from a relatively protected environment. She’ll see the world and return an amazingly self possessed, competent and confident woman. She’ll have a smorgasbord of opportunities to chose from. It’s a good, and relatively (physically) safe career choice. Best of luck to her. I wish now I’d done the same.


26 posted on 01/20/2015 1:27:35 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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