Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Did Easter Island Really Collapse?
Archaeology ^ | Tuesday, January 06, 2015 | editors

Posted on 01/06/2015 2:28:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv

A new study contradicts the idea that the prehistoric Rapa Nui people of Easter Island suffered a demographic collapse brought on by poor environmental stewardship. Scholars had theorized that unchecked agricultural growth after the first settlers arrived around A.D. 1200 strained the island's fragile ecosystem to the breaking point, leading to the erosion of topsoil and the eventual death by starvation of many members of Rapa Nui society. But prehistoric demographics are notoriously difficult to determine with precision. Phys.org reports that an international research team has evaluated the claim that the population of Easter Island collapsed by studying how land was used at different times on the island. They dated obisidian farming tools from a variety of agricultural sites on the island using a method known as obsidian hydration and found that there were population shifts that correlated with changes in rainfall and soil quality. Some areas did lose population, but others gained in population over time. Overall, they were unable to find evidence for a dramatic population collapse, which happened only once Europeans reached the island in A.D. 1722 and islanders succumbed to diseases such as syphilis and smallpox.

(Excerpt) Read more at archaeology.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: chile; easterisland; godsgravesglyphs; rapanui
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last
Did Easter Island Really Collapse?

1 posted on 01/06/2015 2:28:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

Study suggests history of Rapa Nui on Easter Island far more complex than thought
http://phys.org/news/2015-01-history-rapa-nui-easter-island.html


2 posted on 01/06/2015 2:28:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

3 posted on 01/06/2015 2:28:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

There was too much weight from all those statues and it tipped over


4 posted on 01/06/2015 2:34:29 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

It was leaded gas.


5 posted on 01/06/2015 2:37:04 PM PST by KingLudd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

Congressman Hank Johnson told a Navy Admiral that Guam would tip over if it became overpopulated.


6 posted on 01/06/2015 2:44:24 PM PST by Sasparilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

7 posted on 01/06/2015 2:46:57 PM PST by Ray76 (/s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Definitely Global Warming, exacerbated by cow flatulence...


8 posted on 01/06/2015 2:52:55 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Well, they still deforested the place, at least. Can’t blame the Europeans for that.


9 posted on 01/06/2015 2:59:18 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
So it didn't collapse in a Lord of the Flies nightmare?

Another good story bites the dust, like "Travels with Charley."

10 posted on 01/06/2015 3:14:38 PM PST by MUDDOG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Obviously.

Aliens.


11 posted on 01/06/2015 5:46:27 PM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

You can never rule out a Jerry Jones type event as well. The simple fact is that without any written accounts we will never really know for sure the whats or whys, forever to be a mystery.


12 posted on 01/07/2015 2:51:12 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jan_Sobieski

“exacerbated by cow flatulence...”

Let’s not bring Hillary’s gastrointestinal problems into this.


13 posted on 01/07/2015 8:51:17 AM PST by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: fredhead

I digress...;-)


14 posted on 01/07/2015 9:19:33 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

This is not really a change of story but rather a change of emphasis in a liberally politically correct way. Because the islanders did deforest Easter Island long before the Europeans came so they lost their ability to fish and travel—while they degraded the soil.

I just came back from a tour of Mayan ruins in central America. There were miles of temples pyramids that all returned to the jungles about 800 AD for reasons that are murky. I was heard there was some kind of peasant revolt but that would only come if the gods killed the crops byo drought flood, pestilence disease erosion etc.

The Spanish had nothing to do with Mayan decline. Same goes for the Moocha in Peru—who disappeared in the same time frame.


15 posted on 01/07/2015 11:35:24 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Study suggests history of Rapa Nui on Easter Island far more complex than thought
http://phys.org/news/2015-01-history-rapa-nui-easter-island.html
...................
No it doesn’t. What you’re reading is the reporters complex biases on the subject. Not the actual subject itself.

Take a look at this last paragraph from the physorg story and and then look at the last sentence.

The analysis suggests region-specific dynamics including precontact land use decline in some near-coastal and upland areas and postcontact increases and subsequent declines in other coastal locations. These temporal land-use patterns correlate with rainfall variation and soil quality, with poorer environmental locations declining earlier. This analysis confirms that the intensity of land use decreased substantially in some areas of the island before European contact.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-01-history-rapa-nui-easter-island.html#jCp


16 posted on 01/07/2015 11:47:20 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ckilmer; SunkenCiv

Well, since they can’t pin this one on global warming, Christopher Columbus and the coming of the white man will have to do.


17 posted on 01/07/2015 1:19:36 PM PST by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

for later:

Easter Island civilization not destroyed by war, analysis shows {kumbaya dep’t}
http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/winter-2015-2016/article/easter-island-civilization-not-destroyed-by-war-analysis-shows


18 posted on 02/18/2016 2:51:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Note: this topic is from 1/06/2015. Jared Diamond still wrong.
"Despite its almost complete isolation, the inhabitants of Easter Island created a complicated social structure and these amazing works of art before a dramatic change occurred," says Dr. Cedric Puleston, lead author of this study, based at the Department of Anthropology, University of California, Davis, USA. "We've tried to solve one piece of the puzzle - to figure out the maximum population size before it fell. It appears the island could have supported 17,500 people at its peak, which represents the upper end of the range of previous estimates." He adds, "If the population fell from 17,500 to the small number that missionaries counted many years after European contact, it presents a very different picture from the maximum population of 3,000 or less that some have suggested." [Solving the Easter Island population puzzle]

19 posted on 09/23/2017 10:00:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

So the Rapa Nui crossed the vast Pacific Ocean to reach Easter Island, and then what? Agriculture got difficult and rather than sail away they elected to starve? Yeah, that sounds likely!


20 posted on 09/23/2017 10:42:30 AM PDT by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson