Posted on 11/27/2014 12:19:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
Rob and Linda Robertson did what they believed was expected of them as good Christians.
When their 12-year-old son Ryan said he was gay, they told him they loved him, but he had to change. He entered “reparative therapy,” met regularly with his pastor and immersed himself in Bible study and his church youth group. After six years, nothing changed. A despondent Ryan cut off from his parents and his faith, started taking drugs and in 2009, died of an overdose.
“Now we realize we were so wrongly taught,” said Rob Robertson, a firefighter for more than 30 years who lives in Redmond, Washington. “It’s a horrible, horrible mistake the church has made.”
The tragedy could have easily driven the Robertsons from the church. But instead of breaking with evangelicalism—as many parents in similar circumstances have done—the couple is taking a different approach, and they’re inspiring other Christians with gay children to do the same. They are staying in the church and, in protesting what they see as the demonization of their sons and daughters, presenting a new challenge to Christian leaders trying to hold off growing acceptance of same-sex relationships. …
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A great book to read is called “Is God AntiGay”
It is written by Sam Allberry a pastor in England who has SSA (same sex attraction).
The main difference with him is that he supports the biblical interpretation of homosexuality. That it is a sin and homosexuals should be celibate. It is their cross to bear in this life. In the book he says he is not defined by his sexuality but rather by who he is in Christ. Therefore a life dedicated to glorify God is what SSA Christians should emulate and the homosexual lifestyle is NOT such a life that would glorify Him.
Very good read.
Proverbs 30:6
Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you, and you be proven a liar.
This is what these two unbelievers want to do. Glad they have outed themselves so Christians can see the wolves among them.
I grew up at that time, too-but I grew up on a ranch, and in the military, when my dad was someplace deemed safe for dependents. Neither is a sheltered environment-on military bases we were exposed to other cultures and people who were very different from us. Their culture was sometimes totally different from ours-it must have given my parents quite a mental workout, but they always made sure we didn’t get any wild ideas from gossip-we also learned to be totally colorblind, as was required.
In a rural setting, we were far from cities and hyped sexuality-but the cold hard facts of sex and reproduction are right there in the pastures and pens, the same as where meat really comes from-hunting, slaughtering, butchering, etc-since it was impossible to keep us from seeing all that, and given that we were going to participate in it if we chose the rural life, my parents and other relatives answered all of our questions right then and there in an age-appropriate manner, with language city people considered vulgar, and explained all so that we understood it. I’ve always been grateful, and my husband and I did the same for our kid.
He told them in no uncertain terms to stop sinning, and did not allow any such sinners (save Judas, who betrayed him) to follow him.
Scripture is clear.
Isaiah 5:20 applies.
And you will lose that bet. It will NEVER happen with the Catholic Church.
“They either reject their child and hold onto their faith, or they reject their faith and hold onto their child. Rob and I think you can do both: be fully affirming of your faith and fully hold onto your child.”
Hmmm...Jesus said:
“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.” - Matt 10:37
Nor did he banish them from his sight...
“Evangelicals” that don’t know the Gospel will fail and wither away-or they’ll come to the knowledge of the truth.
Exactly. A twelve year old boy has no real understanding of sexuality. I have a gay daughter, at twelve she was merely a lover of the outdoors, hardly an indicator of her future sexuality.
No, you do not send them to counseling, that has to be their choice.
But they need to understand that practicing homosexuality is a sin and a repentent Christian will choose to be celibate.
What worries me TODAY is not some (actuall impossibele) change in formal doctrine, but the de-facto acceptance of "gay culture" --- basically in two forms:
That leaves John, and Jesus' mother Mary, at the foot of the cross. There they were: the Church.
+1
Jesus still loved people even though they were sinners.
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He also told them to repent (and change) and if they didn’t he let me go their own way. Love has a heavy dose of truth telling......................
As I have said before: Within 50 years it will be the Catholic Church alone standing against same sex unions.
More likely somebody buggered him.
Hmmm. I’m sure Satan is loving using Christians to try to bring down the Church, in the name of compassion for their children.
I'm inclined to agree.
Sorry; unrepentant sinners.
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