Does someone have to tell that woman how to breathe? Her logic is beyond belief ... well no it’s not. It’s MSNBC.
No not true.
George H.W. Bush thing was watch my lips ,LOL
Does this nice young man know that much of Bush's own base raised hell when he tried to promote amnesty via legal means?
I hear lots of yapping from the dems, but I don't see an EO. Don't let them live in your head for free.
/johnny
Apples and oranges. Rachel is 20% correct and 80% blowhard.
I don’t know, but based from that article first paragraph alone. Theres a difference between forestalling deportation and amnesty. That be like not punishing anyone who refuse to pay their taxes vs giving everyone’s tax rate 10%. Its a difference from prioritizing prosecution with limited resources vs changing the law
This is childish logic. Just because someone on the other side of the political aisle does something, that does not make it good or right.
Maddow said Obama’s proposed executive action on immigration policy is roughly on the same scale as one taken by Bush. The estimates of how many people would be affected by the policies of both presidents, compared to total number of undocumented immigrants at the time support the claim. Both measures unilaterally lifted or would lift the risk of deportation from about 40 percent of the reported population.
We rate the claim True.
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It would appear to be about the same.
Do not shoot the messenger.
Next month, when Obama sends all da white folks to FEMA camps, Maddow may dismiss it as “on the scale of what FDR did to the Japanese-Americans”.
LOL! In other words, they won't bother to figure out if action both presidents took is the same, they'll just rate as "TRUE" that is affected the same percentage of people.
Oh brother.
I hearby give all of Rachael Maddow’s current and future posessions to the illegal immigrants. They can fight over their share.
No. Maddow is a Gruber.
She knows it’s a lie she’s just too stupid to care so she repeats it for the ignorant that don’t know it’s a lie and have no interest in finding out.
Who cares what Maddow says, no one is tuning in
There is no comparison with this and what Bush and Reagan did. They granted amnesty to the minor children of immigrants who had been given amnesty through a law passed by Congress. They were acting with Congress not against the wishes of Congress (and the majority of the American people). Amnesty to such children is now the law. Plus it gave amnesty to hundreds of thousands, not millions of people. Obama is simply trying to bypass Congress completely,
I had no idea that anyone took Rachel Maddow seriously...
Thanks, to everyone, for you help. Not only was I able to hush up the liberal I was debating, but I got an education as well.
only about 140,000 took advantage of that offer.
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Internet and World Wide Web: Obviously they did not exist in 1986 and 1990 as we know it today.
1. So Maddow conveniently forgets to mention that the World Wide Web and sites like Facebook and Twitter did not exist back in Reagan's and Bush's time.
2. My point is this: If the millions of computers that exist today also existed way back then in 1986 and 1990, along with sites like Facebook and Twitter, Reagan and Bush may have also been highly criticized for their executive orders concerning illegal immigration.
3. In fact, MSNBC did not exist back then because cable tv was still working to get off the ground as millions of homes still did not have access to cable tv as we know it today.
4. Since MSNBC did not exist way back then, it means that Maddow would not be working there back then. Sarcasm.
5. In fact, since Reagan and Bush were Republicans, Maddow, if she was on tv at the time, would probably be severely criticizing both of them for their unconstitutional executive orders back in 1986 and 1990.
6. Maddow conveniently forgets this: A lot us were not happy with the 1986 Reagan immigration bill, but we were told that this bill would solve all our immigration problems forever and we could all then walk into the sunset and live happily after, so we reluctantly went along with the bill. How wrong we were, as we all know.
7. My point is this: If we knew then what we know now about how wrong Reagan's bill was, and we had the World Wild Web to voice our complaints about the Reagan bill, maybe we could have forced Reagan to not sign the 1986 immigration bill and any executive order that followed.
8. Maddow conveniently forgot to talk about this also: The United States was far different back in 1986 than it is today in 2014, and people were more relaxed then.
9. For instance, if one could go back in time, the California of 1986 would be barely recognizable as we compare it to the California of 2014, because illegal immigration, mostly from Latin America, has changed California forever.
10. Also,Southern states such as North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and Tennessee were not fighting an illegal immigrants invasion like they are today in 2014.
11. So, Maddow, it may appear to you that Obama is simply doing what Reagan did in 1986 and Bush did in 1990.
12. But in reality, the United States---with the explosion of the Internet since 1986 and the suffocating illegal immigration from the south---is so different from Reagan's 1986 and Bush's 1990 that comparing Reagan's and Bush;s immigration executive orders to Obama's executive order tonight is not only wrong, it is absurd, and because 1986 was so long ago in dog years, it is like comparing apples and oranges.
13. So Maddow, Obama's executive order must stand on its own merits. But the more we look at it, the more we realize that Obama is wrong, and his action goes against everything America holds dear. He is abusing the power of the Presidency. No doubt about it.