Posted on 11/17/2014 7:35:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
On Tuesday, on the eve of Chinas 10th Zhuhai Airshow, California-based Coptervision placed an order for 20 Y-12s, a 19-seat turboprop.
This purchase marks the first time for any Chinese-made planes to enter an advanced market, and the U.S. has the highest standards, so this testifies to the achievement of Chinese aircraft manufacturing, said Li Xianzhe of Avicopter to the South China Morning Post. Avicopter is the general aviation subsidiary of the Y-12s manufacturer, Aviation Industry Corp. of China.
Four of the Coptervision orders are for the Y-12F. This model, the most recent version of the Chinese workhorse, has not yet received FAA certification. The utility plane will get that in half a year hopefully, Li says. The balance of the order is for the Y-12E, certified in 2006. The Y-12 is the only FAA-certified Chinese civil aircraft, according to Li.
China, which hasnt yet been able to make a car good enough for the American market, is now selling planes there. So is the Y-12 safe to ferry tourists over the Grand Canyon, Coptervisions primary intended use for its Chinese purchases?
The Y-12 has crashed numerous times outside China, but most of the incidents do not appear to be the result of problems with the craft itself. There is probably nothing so reliable in the air as a time-tested model.
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“Made in China aka Cr**.
Never bothered me to buy stuff from Japan. All their electronics worked well and it seems forever.
China’s electronics...like I said...cr**.”
I am old enough to remember when stuff from Japan was considered junk, even electronics.
I’ve got to cry foul on the article title. Not the first Chinese-made aircraft imported to the U.S. We have been getting the Nanchang CJ-6, a Chinese copy of the basic Russian Yak-18 trainer, for a number years. Lately, a Chinese-made all electric single seat plane has been available. Both of these are in the Experimental category. I believe that for certified aircraft to be used in commercial flights in this country, the assembly line and all the drawings would have to be checked by the FAA.
Have also seen several Chinese Mig 15s flying in the US.
Kinda looks like a stretched Mitsubishi MU-2.
The thing about crashing and dying a fiery death in a Chinese plane is that an hour later you feel like crashing and dying a fiery death all over again.
Accidents and incidents
On 13 December 1993, a Lao Aviation Y-12-II, registration RDPL-34117, clipped trees in fog and crashed at Phonesavanh, Laos, killing all 18 on board.[22]
On 4 April 1995, a TANS Y-12-II, registration 333/OB-1498, crashed shortly after takeoff from Iquitos Airport, Peru, killing all three on board.
On 21 June 1996, a China Flying Dragon Aviation Y-12-II, registration B-3822, crashed into a 100 m (330 ft) mountain near Changhai Airport after the crew began the final approach too early and deviated from the intended course, killing two of 12 on board.[23]
On 20 January 1997, a Sri Lanka Air Force Y-12-II, CR851, crashed off Pataly Air Base while on a surveillance mission, killing all four on board.[24]
On 10 June 1997, a MIAT Mongolian Airlines Y-12-II, registration JU-1020, crashed at Mandalgobi Airport due to windshear, killing seven of 12 on board.[25]
On 26 May 1998, a MIAT Mongolian Airlines Y-12-II, registration JU-1017, crashed into a 10,800 ft (3,300 m) mountain near Galt Som in heavy icing condition, Mongolia en route to Tosontsengel due to heavy icing, wing de-ice system fault and overloading, killing all 28 on board; this crash is the worst ever accident involving the Y-12.
On 19 October 2000, a Lao Aviation (now Lao Airlines) Y-12-II, registration RDPL-34130 and operating as Flight 703, crashed in a mountainous area in bad weather while on approach to Sam Neua, killing eight of 15 passengers; both pilots survived.[26]
On 18 May 2005, a Zambia Air Force Y-12-II, AF-216, crashed shortly after takeoff from Mongu Airport, killing all 13 on board.[27]
On 10 April 2006, a Kenya Air Force (KAF) Y-12-II, 132, struck the side of Mount Marsabit, killing 14 of 17 on board.[28]
On 15 June 2008, a China Flying Dragon Aviation Y-12-II, registration B-3841, struck a small hill during a survey flight for a new aluminum mine, killing three of four on board.[29]
On 12 July 2012, a Y-12 of the Mauritanian Air Force crashed while transporting gold, killing all 7 occupants.[30]
On 12 May 2014, a Y-12-II of the Kenyan Air Force crashed in El Wak, Kenya. The airplane operated on a flight from Mandera to Nairobi with stops at El Wak and Garissa. Preliminary information suggests that one pilot was killed and the remaining eleven occupants were injured. [31]
I remember when Japanese toys were made from hammered out tin cans.
I remember opening up a little toy car and finding “Libby’s peas,” printed on the inside.
Omg....I feel bad...but I laughed out loud!!
“I wonder how well theyll sell.”
That depends on whether Harbor Freight offers 25% discount coupons for them.
Not to mention, anytime you do a fire escape practice in a Chinese plane turns into...well, you know...
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/fair_provider.php?p=3
We are the only country in the world that doesn't have its own government bought and paid for airline. THAT is why China has its own airline and we don't. China isn't special...WE are.
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The Chinese don't have big butts because they never have enough to eat. The Chinese in America, ABC's (American Born Chinese) and long time Chinese residents DO have the big butts because here in America we do get enough to eat. If those Chinese in China COULD--they would LOVE to have big butts...because it would mean FOOD, no famines. China was INFAMOUS for its famines.
YOU get enough to eat because you are a foreigner and it would be a loss of face to let a foreigner go hungry.
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Oh and the cabin crews...attentive, helpful, much younger and far better looking than any US carrier.
Ah yes, they have the old system that we had...crews, mostly female, are hired by their looks, not their brains, ability to serve and such. Lol. You love it, of course, but for the MAJORITY of women who aren't cute, it's not so nice.
AND when those stewardess cuties turn 30 their jobs are GONE with the wind and they can look forward to a life that isn't so sweet. Lol. But, then YOU never see that as the Asian airlines REPLACE them ASAP with 12-year-old looking women, just to keep the men drooling.
I won't be going to China ever again not because of its misogyny but because its the filthiest country on this planet. Once was enough. Yes, I lived in Mexico (2 years), Saudi Arabia (5 years) and India for just a bit. CHINA? We were there for eight weeks...and I WOULDN'T live in that filthy pit hole for all of its tea.
They DO produce BEAUTIFUL things, MANY, many BEAUTIFUL things, not just "art." There is THAT to admire and I think it makes them well worthy of all the praise they get for it. What a shame their attitude toward cleanliness belongs in the Dark Ages.
Their attitude toward filth does translate 100% to the Chinese (from China) here in the US. Some people make a transition to have American attitudes; some don't.
The Chinese from China who open restaurants here find that they can't bribe the inspectors, nor can they keep a restaurant open if they fail to comply with our health and safety rules. SO they run clean, safe establishments, close, or they are hit where it hurts the most: in their wallets. Everyone wins.
They don't HAVE to come here OR stay here. They ARE here by choice, so I guess all our health, cleanliness and safety rules don't bother them at all. They might even welcome them.
再见, 大屁股 :o)
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