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If You’re Not Rich, Divorce Can Be Financially Devastating
New York Times ^ | 11/15/2014 | TERESA TRITCH

Posted on 11/15/2014 10:24:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

There is a long list of women* who have amassed personal fortunes by divorcing rich husbands — and as far as I can tell, they deserved every penny. This week Sue Ann Hamm joined it when a court ordered her ex-husband, Harold Hamm, the Oklahoma oil man, to pay her some $1 billion in cash and assets, or about $38 million per year of a 26-year marriage.

Ms. Hamm plans to appeal on the grounds that the award grossly undervalues her share of the wealth accumulated during the marriage, Reuters reported on Thursday. If Ms. Hamm gets anywhere near half of Mr. Hamm’s stake in his oil company, currently valued around $13.5 billion, she will catapult to No. 1 on the rich divorcee list, far outdistancing Elena Rybolovleva, who received $4.8 billion this year from her ex-husband, Dmitri Rybolovlev, the Russian “fertilizer king.”

Meanwhile, back in the real world, divorce is still financially devastating. Overall, a man’s income drops 23 percent after divorce, while a woman’s income drops 41 percent.

Divorce is also increasingly common among couples, like the Hamms, who are age 50 and older. (Ms. Hamm is in her late 50s and Mr. Hamm is 68.) From 1990 to 2010, the divorce rate doubled for people 50+, while the rate for the general population was flat, according to a report this month in the AARP Bulletin by Jane Bryant Quinn. In all, one fourth of all divorces in 2010 were for people age 50 and up.

(Excerpt) Read more at takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: asitshouldbe; badparents; divorce; goodnews; poverty; selfishnesscost; wealth
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1 posted on 11/15/2014 10:24:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No $#*+ Sherlock. I bought the house before we were married, as a single person. She got the house.


2 posted on 11/15/2014 10:25:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems to me if you’ve made it that long, you could try and patch it together.


3 posted on 11/15/2014 10:27:05 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

RE: Seems to me if you’ve made it that long, you could try and patch it together.

I guess that’s why our laws make it financially destructive to divorce... to discourage it perhaps.


4 posted on 11/15/2014 10:29:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s only devastating if you’re the man. If there are children involved, you REALLY get it up the ass sideways, with a rusty chainsaw.

I’ve never had to go through it, but I’ve known of MANY others that have, and it’s totally unfair in most cases.


5 posted on 11/15/2014 10:35:07 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SeekAndFind

The odds of a successful marriage (i.e., no divorce) go from about 50/50 when married to an American to about 90/10 when married to someone from a culture where divorce is NOT looked at as a means of enrichment.

I chose the second.


6 posted on 11/15/2014 10:39:35 AM PST by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, if this is to be fixed, step number one has to be getting rid of no fault divorce.

A whole lot of this nonsense didn’t happen when the party that wanted to play the field or who just took off leaving the debts and the kids was guaranteed to bear the brunt of the losses. Domestic violence, infidelity, gambling the family into poverty...there was no “sharing” the loss when your long suffering spouse had enough (assuming a judge followed the law which is a separate issue) you just got what your behavior earned.

There is no way to try to fix things that will not instead just make it worse if that is not a prerequisite.


7 posted on 11/15/2014 10:40:12 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That first sentence frosts my hide.


8 posted on 11/15/2014 10:41:33 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: KoRn

“Two-thirds of breadwinning mothers are single mothers—with a median household income of $23,000 a year.”

“It’s time to cheer marriage—the number one weapon against child poverty.”

http://dailysignal.com/2013/07/31/the-truth-about-breadwinner-moms/


9 posted on 11/15/2014 10:42:47 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: SeekAndFind
My first wife embezzled quite a bit of money and was unfaithful. For two years while I worked hard she planned how to tie up my assets and to leave me bankrupt when she left with her lover. I trusted her and only after forensic examination of the finances did my lawyer and accountant discover the completeness of the betrayal. Today, she is a millionaire. Divorce is not in favor of the man. The laws are in favour of the unfaithful and cheating woman. I survived the ordeal and could write a book on how a cheating wife with the help of a lawyer and a two year head start can destroy a man's wealth, confidence, and trust.
10 posted on 11/15/2014 10:43:11 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought it only assets acquired after marriage and what you had before were not ....


11 posted on 11/15/2014 10:44:20 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is something valid about positive contribution to earnings and net worth made by a stay at home spouse. I’ve known a number of people who alone never would have amounted to much but between their own limited capabilities and the limited capabilities of their spouse, they were able to do quite well for themselves.


12 posted on 11/15/2014 10:45:57 AM PST by fso301
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To: SeekAndFind

The disconnect is so strange.

Most of the divorced men I know insist they were cleaned out by a venomous ex wife.

Most of the divorced women I know insist their ex husbands are screw ups with almost nothing to divide upon divorce.

I think everyone is full of it.


13 posted on 11/15/2014 10:47:55 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SkyDancer

Yeah, so did I, at one time.


14 posted on 11/15/2014 10:51:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Robin Williams...


15 posted on 11/15/2014 10:54:05 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: KoRn

I have, and your description is dead-on the money.

She cheated, I paid.


16 posted on 11/15/2014 10:55:12 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: SeekAndFind

No one comes out looking good out of a divorce. Its a tribute to human selfishness, venality and greed - and the belief the grass looks greener on the other side.

If you’re divorcing for a change of lifestyle, maybe you shouldn’t have gotten married in the first place.


17 posted on 11/15/2014 10:56:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Enticements to break and rob common, working families keeps the potential competition from rising. That’s what it’s really about, and nearly all big political lobbies involved with both political parties have been involved. But go on ahead. Finish the default process. Have fun. Enjoy the slide.


18 posted on 11/15/2014 11:03:10 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Grams A

Seems to me if you’ve made it that long, you could try and patch it together.


If someone wants to leave you, you can’t stop them. Imagine being married for 19 years, and being served papers 10 days before Christmas !


19 posted on 11/15/2014 11:04:20 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: nesnah

She got the mine, and I got the shaft.


20 posted on 11/15/2014 11:06:18 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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