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Democrat Rep: ‘You Don’t Have a Right to Know’ What’s Going on in Your Government
The Tea Party News Network ^ | July 25, 2014 | Greg Campbell

Posted on 10/23/2014 6:29:40 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy

“You don’t have a right to know everything in a separation-of-powers government, my friend. That is the difference between a parliamentary government and a separation-of-powers government,” Democrat congresswoman, Eleanor Holmes Norton, claimed during a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing.

It’s amazing that America possesses even one citizen who would believe such an obvious falsehood; it’s even more outrageous that America has a representative in Congress who believes this. Video at source.


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To: MrB

Well, its still govt by consent even if theyre in denial. Theyre just on the cusp of seeing what withdrawal of the consent looks like. Theyll lose elections. If they try to impose their will at the end of a gun that can be dealt with too. I say this b/c all too often those in govt are happy (even quick) to use force. They mistakenly believe just b/c theyre elected they can do whatever they please.


21 posted on 10/23/2014 6:55:14 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Cats Pajamas

We have some weirdly shaped Congressional districts in FL so that we can comply with the “Minority-Majority” mandate
of the Justice Department. Norton speaks for the whole District of Columbia. DC is not divided for the purpose of sending delegation to the Congress.


22 posted on 10/23/2014 6:57:53 AM PDT by abenaki (It CAN happen here.)
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To: 556x45

They’d be best served by allowing the “escape valve” of elections,

but I think they’re arrogant enough to think they can plug this “hole” in their agenda as well.

They’ve done everything they can to eliminate the possibility of having their power limited by the ballot box.


23 posted on 10/23/2014 7:01:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

“You don’t have a right to know everything in a separation-of-powers government, my friend.”

You are NOT my friend, Eleanor.


24 posted on 10/23/2014 7:06:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

This attitude is pervasive at all levels.

I can’t tell you how many times I have heard people say that some things should not be trusted to the people to vote on, on the local level. There are plenty of complete totalitarians among us.


25 posted on 10/23/2014 7:07:50 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

This attitude is pervasive at all levels.

I can’t tell you how many times I have heard people say that some things should not be trusted to the people to vote on, on the local level. There are plenty of complete totalitarians among us.


26 posted on 10/23/2014 7:08:57 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I know it’s shocking, but she sang a very different tune when a Republican was President:

http://fas.org/sgp/congress/2005/h040705.html

Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, today, I reintroduce the United States
Commission on an Open Society and Security Act, expressing an idea I
began working on when the first signs of the closing of parts of our
open society appeared after the Oklahoma City bombing tragedy, well
before 9/11. This bill has grown more urgent as increasing varieties of
security throughout the country have proliferated without any thought
about their effect on common freedoms and ordinary access. The bill I
introduce today would begin a systematic investigation that takes full
account of the importance of maintaining our democratic traditions
while responding adequately to the real and substantial threats
terrorism poses.
To be useful in accomplishing its difficult mission, the commission
would be composed not only of military and security experts, but for
the first time, they would be at the same table with experts from such
fields as business, architecture, technology, law, city planning, art,
engineering, philosophy, history, sociology, and psychology. To date,
questions of security most often have been left almost exclusively to
security and military experts. They are indispensable participants, but
these experts cannot alone resolve all the new and unprecedented issues
raised by terrorism in an open society. In order to strike the balance
required by our democratic traditions, a cross cutting group needs to
be working together at the same table.
For years now before our eyes, parts of our open society have
gradually been closed down because of terrorism and fear of terrorism—
whether checkpoints at the Capital even when there are no alerts or
applications of technology without regard to their effects on privacy.
However, particularly following the unprecedented terrorist attack on
our country, Americans have a right to expect additional and increased
security adequate to protect citizens against this new frightening
threat. People expect government to be committed and smart enough to
undertake this awesome new responsibility without depriving them of
their personal liberty. These years in our history will long be
remembered by the rise of terrorism in the world and in this country.
As a result, American society faces new and unprecedented challenges.
We must provide ever-higher levels of security for our people and
public spaces while maintaining a free and open democratic society. As
yet, our country has no systematic process or strategy for meeting
these challenges.


27 posted on 10/23/2014 7:14:48 AM PDT by dirtboy
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28 posted on 10/23/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cats Pajamas
Her district is so gerrymandered it probably looks like a slithering snake.

Gerrymandering doesn't enter into Eleanor's case. She represents DC, which is all one "district." DC votes 90%-plus democrat, so I'm not expecting a tea party insurgency to turn her out. A primary challenge is possible, but since the DC representative is non-voting, there is not a lot of the sizzle in that steak. Primary contests for city council and mayor are vigorously contested, but no one seems much interested in challenging Eleanor for a fake job (albeit a high-paying one). It's a sinecure for a non-entity.

29 posted on 10/23/2014 7:39:43 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: abenaki

Eleanor H. Norton is Black from DC, She is exempt from Stupidity, Racism, to name just a few.


30 posted on 10/23/2014 7:45:47 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
it’s even more outrageous that America has a representative in Congress who believes this.

Uhhh . . . there are more than one.

Here is another one who essentially said the same thing, in different words:

Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It."

31 posted on 10/23/2014 7:57:10 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

That idiot should be air-dropped over a Communist paradise like North Korea. Without a parachute.


32 posted on 10/23/2014 12:14:00 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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