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The Death of Taney
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/the-death-of-taney/ ^ | October 15, 2014 | Timothy S. Huebner

Posted on 10/16/2014 9:05:49 PM PDT by iowamark

On Oct. 12, 1864, President Abraham Lincoln must have breathed a bit easier.

Not because the war was over — it would last another six months. Not because he had been re-elected — the election remained nearly a month away. And not because Gen. William T. Sherman had begun his decisive march through Georgia — the general was still holding Atlanta. While much remained unsettled, Lincoln’s achievements as president seemed more secure that autumn day because the president learned that his old nemesis Roger B. Taney, the Maryland-born chief justice of the Supreme Court, had died.

Ever since Taney had handed down the Supreme Court’s decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford in 1857, he and Lincoln had been bitter rivals. Taney was a well-known defender of slavery, a bias he showed most famously in that case, when the court attempted to resolve, once and for all, the contentious issue of slavery in federal territories. Taney and six other justices had done so by ruling squarely on the side of slaveholders; according to Taney, slaveholding was a constitutional right, one with which neither Congress nor a territorial legislature could interfere.

Lincoln, who by then had served in Congress but was now back in Illinois, working as a politically active lawyer, disagreed strongly with the decision, and his opposition to Dred Scott fueled his political rise in the North. When he ran for Congress the next year, he debated the matter fiercely with his Democratic opponent, Stephen Douglas. Lincoln strongly implied that Taney, Douglas and other leaders had conspired to spread slavery throughout the land. And in 1860, Lincoln ran on a Republican Party platform that denounced the Dred Scott ruling as “a dangerous political heresy.”...

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dredscott; dredscottvsandford; greatestpresident; lincoln; maryland; milhist; rogertaney; stephendouglas; thecivilwar
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To: VeniVidiVici

Oh, and Justice Taney was memorialized in Frederick. The foreigners from DC put up a stink and tried to get the bust removed.

Of course, most of them are damn liberals, not to mention invaders taking over a great area and fundamentally changing it.


21 posted on 10/17/2014 4:50:24 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Tucker39

I would say it is more Lan kisster.


22 posted on 10/17/2014 4:52:02 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: re_nortex

Just as lots of us do not like Lincoln. Must have missed those threads.


23 posted on 10/17/2014 4:53:10 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: iowamark

24 posted on 10/17/2014 8:19:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective,)
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To: iowamark

Thanks


25 posted on 10/17/2014 9:06:14 AM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

There’s more emphasis on the k than on the n around here. But.....different strokes...


26 posted on 10/17/2014 10:16:16 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: BroJoeK

The 2 cities are CONTINENTS APART.
Lank-uster around here.


27 posted on 10/17/2014 10:18:10 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: iowamark

There used to be a USCGC called the Taney.


28 posted on 10/17/2014 10:23:12 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Tucker39

My husband is from cental PA and gets after me all the time. Been around there my share, and that’s the way I hear it, including last year when we actually had a mini vaca there and can hear the locals....(basically, I’d also say the first syllable is emphasized, whereas everyone else like myself emphasizes the first 2)


29 posted on 10/17/2014 12:37:31 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

That is in the Baltimore harbor.


30 posted on 10/17/2014 12:38:39 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Still commissioned? Retired?


31 posted on 10/17/2014 12:39:17 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Tucker39

NY is not across the Atlantic. ;-)


32 posted on 10/17/2014 12:41:44 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

It’s part of the maritime museum, so I guess retired!


33 posted on 10/17/2014 12:47:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

True. You threw Lancaster, England into the mix...and the Night Bomber.

But Lancaster, NY and Lancaster, CA both pronounce it wrong.

Bye.


34 posted on 10/17/2014 3:13:21 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Tucker39
Begging your pardon, but locals pronounce it Tah-nee-town. Funny how these things work.

Yeah, especially since Taney himself pronounced it Taw-nee.

35 posted on 10/17/2014 5:37:46 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: X Fretensis
Several years ago, I read an article is an issue of the Civil War Times Illustrated. The Article dealt with President Lincoln signing an arrest warrant for the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (Taney). The Chief Justice was issuing writs of Habeas Corpus to Maryland legislators arrested but not charged by the Lincoln Administration. Lincoln was mad as hell with Taney for this. He signed the arrest warrant and told the magistrate to not act on it until Lincoln told him to do so. I do not recall the issue the article appeared in. Imagine the political fall out if the President had arrested the Chief Justice.

Interesting on how every single one of Taney's biographers managed to miss that incident in all their books about the Chief Justice.

36 posted on 10/17/2014 5:40:54 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“Tawny” in a mid-Atlantic accent (TAH-nee) might sound an awful lot like “tiny” to a fair number of native southerners (TAH-nee as well), so it could all be a matter of perception of the same pronunciation.


37 posted on 10/17/2014 5:41:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RinaseaofDs
There used to be a USCGC called the Taney.

Because Taney was Andrew Jackson's Secretary of the Treasury 1833-34.

38 posted on 10/17/2014 5:46:00 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: SES1066

“No Chief Justice to date has come anywhere close to unseating John Marshall (1755-1835) as the greatest and most influential CJ ever on SCOTUS “

John Marshall’s cousin was Thomas Jefferson and they hated each other with a passion.


39 posted on 10/17/2014 5:47:30 PM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: gusopol3

It us also reasonable to note that in the Dred Scott opinion Taney distorted history and flat-out lied about a number of things. As was pointed out in the dissents.

The DS decision had a great deal in common with the Roe v Wade decision.

In both cases, the Supremes decided to impose their own moral values on the nation to shortcut a political process that wasn’t reaching the results they thought it should. So they just invented stuff as being in the Constitution that simply isn’t there.

The Constitution says nothing whatsoever about color. But Taney saw penumbras and emanations in it that meant people of color were not and could never become citizens of the United States.


40 posted on 10/17/2014 5:53:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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