Posted on 10/12/2014 11:02:27 AM PDT by B4Ranch
This has been an interesting week for me. I have been discussing with numerous Christian lawyers and judges in three states, a possible solution to the lawsuits LGBT clientele bring forth against Christian Small Business Owners for having strong religious beliefs.
We are all familiar with the lawsuit against the Colorado family-owned Christian bakery that eventually lost their business due to their refusal to bake a wedding cake for two same sex clients.
Then there's the the New Mexico photographer who got sued after declining to photograph a lesbian couple's wedding, citing religious objections.
Or the florist who allegedly refused to provide flowers for a gay wedding because of her religious beliefs is now being sued by the Washington State attorney general.
On and on it goes. These people think they can force us to accept their sexual deviance as being normal behavior. I'm sorry, I can't do that.
When a Christian Small Business Owner hangs a sign in his place of business that reads, "Occasionally, we sub-contract work to other local businesses that meet our standards of quality" hopefully this will protect him from these LGBT clientele who think the world works best when a liberal judge oversees it.
What you are saying with your sign is that you will sub-contract work to others when any of theses situations exist: due to work overload, lack of needed supplies on hand, shortage of personnel when someone is on vacation or off sick or the job is so disgusting that you would prefer someone else do it.
You are not required to announce your religious beliefs to the LGBT client who enter your place of business. You are not refusing the LGBT customer request that he or she employ your company to do work that you advertise you are willing to do. You ask the LGBT client all the normal questions that you would any client. Then you call another Small Business Owner whose religious beliefs are such that they do not interfere with them doing the work under a sub-contract for your LGBT client. You get a bid from the other SBO and relay the cost to your LGBT client. They will then either accept or refuse the bid. In which case they are free to search for another SBO to do their work.
Should they accept your bid, you then call the sub contractor and tell him to proceed with the job as you have outlined it in your previous phone call. He does the work, delivers the product to you, you call the LGBT client and tell them to come in, settle the bill and collect the finished product.
The result is a happy LGBT client who has no reason to bring a lawsuit against you or your firm for refusal of service. You didn't have to handle any offensive material and hopefully your religious beliefs were not too harmed that a few prayers won't mend them.
In the event of this being a photography proposal, the same situation exists. You accept the job, explain what you will need. Then tell the client your price which you will have agreed to ahead of time with another photographer who is not so easily offended. When the job comes up and the other photographer shows up at the site for the job, he only has to say that you are coming down with a cold and didn't want to expose the wedding guests to a possible infection so he is the alternate cameraman. The client will accept or deny entrance to the alternate cameraman, in which case you will return whatever percentage of his deposit that you feel is fair.
Numerous judges and lawyers believe this is a workable solution to the current situation. Please verify this with your company attorney and if it requires any tweaks to fit your state laws don't hold them to yourself. Share the information on how we can protect our businesses!
If you know any Christian business owners please copy this text and email it to them. Perhaps send the URL so they can read any comments that FR members post on the subject.
Oh, yes, your idea is workable for those who are not willing to close their business instead of consorting with evil.
That's good news.
Disagree. You’re still condoning it by accepting the product and getting paid.
Go through the interview and when things start to smell, check your appointment book and surprise! you are booked that day or your assistant is going on vacation or some other excuse and then refer them to the competition. Never ever say anything about your beliefs.
I sure that you’ll get into Heaven before I will. That’s the price I’ll pay for being evil, I guess.
Possible Suggestions for Victims of the Gay Mafia.
First: Choose the court. Strike from a suit any gay judge, democrat appointed one or one who rules liberal. There are services that can pull up profiles and ruling history on judges. Change venue if in a heavy blue area.
Second: There are civil rights defenses that do not appear to have been used a. First Amendment - whatever law they are using prohibits the free expression of religion - it prohibits Christians from owning or operating business and/or forces them to prohibit their expression of faith in order to do business. b. First amendment: Violates the Freedom of association. c. Violates the thirteenth Amendment as it requires the individuals labor against their will; etc.
Third: Bring civil-rights law-suits counter suits against the ones causing the pain for violating the Christian’s civil-rights above.
This is not legal advice, it could be very wrong on one or all issues so see a real lawyer if you consider fighting back in this area.
Yes, indeed.
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CJB:
Mat 5:18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud ( י ) or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. Mat 5:19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
KJV
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The other business is your "shabbos goy".
I’d rather be sued than cower or acquiesce to the gay nazi movement. Come what may. I have the power of Jesus Christ on my side to stand firm against opposition.
I would get all money up front and make them very nervous to seve the food to any guests.
“The result is a happy LGBT client...”
I don’t think it is possible for these pervs to be happy which is why they try so hard to make the rest of us unhappy.
I am not saying you are evil, and I am an agnostic, so probably not anyway.
You could show the gay couple your “special” sample book of cake designs Nazi, homophobic end so forth.
Agreed. Complete disobedience/refusal to support their insanity.
The quote will be placed around each layer as the decorator is able, and is not optional. It should also be done in such a way that attempting to remove it after it leaves the shop would ruin or seriously mess up the cake. There's probably some way of working this into a fondant "template" (like pre-printed) so it really is part of the side of the cake's frosting.
Well, if they told me they were unlawfully divorced and had no right to marry, I wouldn’t do it.
After the court had made it’s decision, were I the baker involved, I would bake a second cake emblazoned with the words “God Hates Fags”. Place it prominently in the display case next to the pervert’s cake.
After all, if I can’t refuse one, how can I refuse the other?
Interracial marriage applications were denied not because of marriage definitions but because of now abolished segregation laws. Big difference.
There is no legitimate comparison of the effort to normalize homosexuality with the struggle that Black Americans suffered to secure their civil rights and Black Americans have said so.
Good point. Unfortunately Tony Perkins didn’t have time to address Ted Olson’s claim.
If I owned a bakery I would have no problem baking a wedding cake for these delusional fudge packers and lesbians. A cake is just a cake.... If I was a photographer I would do their wedding but with money upfront. I would not do a good job. Let the gays spread that to their gay friends
But if I owned a place for weddings and wedding receptions I would have a real problem with a gay wedding on my property. I would have to think about what to do.
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