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U.S. President in ABC Prime Time: ‘Right to Bear Arms’ in Constitution and ‘So Was Slavery’
newsbusters.org ^ | 10-9-2014 | Brent Baker

Posted on 10/09/2014 12:49:58 PM PDT by servo1969

ABC’s Scandal, which has a fresh episode tonight, last week featured “President Fitzgerald Grant,” supposedly a Republican, channeling Piers Morgan as he used the State of the Union address to plead for more gun control: “How many other people’s children are we going to let die before we put a stop to this?”

“Grant,” played by Tony Goldwyn, recalled how his teen son died of a “fluke” infection (not true, that’s one of many of Scandal’s wild conspiracies), but “there were thousands of people last year who lost their lives in a completely avoidable way.”

He then compared gun rights with slavery: “The right to bear arms -- set in stone in the Constitution by our founding fathers. So was slavery, by the way.”

By that logic, you could say: “The right to free speech -- set in stone in the Constitution by our founding fathers. So was slavery, by the way.”


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To: DJ MacWoW

Although it might not fit very well, being so much bigger than the others.


41 posted on 10/09/2014 1:29:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

It would be a heart-breakingly huge number.


42 posted on 10/09/2014 1:31:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: GraceG

I don’t think that anyone envisioned slaves voting. The southern states wanted to count the slaves for the apportionment of Congressional seats. The northern states did not want to count them at all for apportionment. Voting by slaves is an entirely different matter and would not have been contemplated.

Only citizens can vote, and slaves were not citizens (don’t forget that universal female suffrage was over sixty years in the future at the time of the American Civil War).


43 posted on 10/09/2014 1:31:17 PM PDT by bagman
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To: DJ MacWoW
I have to believe that your graph is for US children only. I thought I had read previously that diarrhea was the leading killer of children worldwide (basically dehydration, with the diarrhea as a symptom of a variety of nasty ailments).

And then it is surprising that parental violence is not in the top 5.

44 posted on 10/09/2014 1:36:59 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

The graph came from someplace like the CDC, I just can’t remember where.


45 posted on 10/09/2014 1:40:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SMARTY

There is the magazine and website
http://slaverytoday.org/

Kenyans are being enslaved in ME countries.
http://www.kenyaforum.net/2014/10/02/government-intervenes-to-end-slavery-of-kenyans-in-middle-east/


46 posted on 10/09/2014 1:41:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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“Estimated number of population in modern slavery

The Global Slavery Index also provides insight into the estimated absolute numbers of people in modern slavery, in 162 countries. When the estimated number of enslaved people is considered in absolute terms as a single factor, the country ranking shifts considerably.

The countries with the highest numbers of enslaved people are India, China, Pakistan, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Russia, Thailand, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar and Bangladesh. Taken together, these countries account for 76% of the total estimate of 29.8 million in modern slavery.”

http://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/?gclid=CNfXoN63oMECFQctaQod6yoAkg#overview


47 posted on 10/09/2014 1:43:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Tackling Human Trafficking Through a National Plan of Action

International Organization for Migration IOM, 17 August 2007

http://www.iom.int/cms/en/sites/iom/home/news-and-views/press-briefing-notes/pbn-2007/pbn-listing/tackling-human-trafficking-through-a-nat.html

[accessed 10 July 2013]

In addition, internal trafficking of Kenyans is considered to be widespread, particularly from rural to urban areas such as Nairobi and Mombasa for exploitation in domestic labour and commercial sex. The majority of Kenyan victims are either trafficked or introduced to their traffickers by family members or friends, with the most common method of recruitment being promises of good jobs or education. Once in a trafficking situation, victims report overwork, physical and sexual abuse, non-payment or under-payment, poor working conditions, and restricted or no access to schooling


48 posted on 10/09/2014 1:45:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Teacher317
And then it is surprising that parental violence is not in the top 5.

If it were included abortion would be #1 by far, so there is your parental violence

49 posted on 10/09/2014 1:46:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: WayneS
Perhaps his son should not have had sex with Sandra Fluke...

Ouch! Very good.

50 posted on 10/09/2014 1:48:56 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: servo1969

there’s nothing in the constitution that enshrines slavery. it talks about free people and other people (bonded people, white or black, indentured servants, etc). not just slaves. amendment 13 explicitly says no new states will have slavery/involuntary servitude in them, 1865. the 14th ensures former slaves would be regarded as full persons/citizens with the rights of those granted.


51 posted on 10/09/2014 1:52:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ilgipper

Well, according to the Dred Scott decision the northern states had to give back runaway slaves because freeing them would be an unconstitutional taking of private property ala the Fourth Amendment. One of the worst decisions in SCOTUS history that was a major cause of the civil war, but for a time it was considered a constitutional right.


52 posted on 10/09/2014 1:59:38 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
True, but it did expressly name the rights that were to be protected from intrusion by the federal government.

Which includes the Ninth Amendment, which the intelligentsia has chosen to ignore. One of Mark Levin's intellectual buddies is Randy Barnett, author of Restoring the Lost Constitution. It focuses on the Ninth, those rights not itemized in the BOR, and how the federal courts should treat them. Highly recommended.

53 posted on 10/09/2014 2:00:54 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: ilgipper
Where is that slavery clause again?
Well, it is addressed in several places. The framers were pressured to include some things about in order to get the slave states to sign on.

So there's these clauses in the constitution:
Article-I, Section-2 = Slaves counted as 3/5 of a person
Article-I, Section-9 clause 1 = Can't prohibit slavery until 1808
Article-IV, Section-2 = Escaped slaves must be returned upon demand
Article-V = Bars adding a Constitutional Amendment to Ban Slavery Until 1808]

Finally, there's the 13th amendment that freed slaves.

Someone should have shouted to the Fitz-Grant, "Hey jackass! The Constitution also *FREED* slaves. But if your are serious and don't like the 2nd Amend., there is a process to change it if you got the guts to try - or are you just talking out your @$$ ??!!"

54 posted on 10/09/2014 2:08:27 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: servo1969

Sorry, don’t watch ‘Scandals’ because Hollywood is trash.


55 posted on 10/09/2014 2:11:41 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: WayneS

It was a 10th amendment issue.

Not prohibited or codified, the people and the states were free to make their own decision about how to best order their lives...


56 posted on 10/09/2014 2:19:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I quit watching the day the two fags stripped naked, to ensure neither was wearing a wire and they literally attacked each other, in a gay ass frenzy of their mutual love for hairy ass.

Was a good show until they pulled that Shiite.


57 posted on 10/09/2014 2:22:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
I think that was it for me, too.

I hate it when a man calls another man his "husband." EEEeeewww.

58 posted on 10/09/2014 2:28:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Colon Commandos


59 posted on 10/09/2014 2:30:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ilgipper

Hollywood writers have never read it. And I love the fake president’s whine about “one child to die” by a gun but these libtards don’t mind aborting it.

I hate libs. I deeply hate them.


60 posted on 10/09/2014 2:39:04 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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