Winning or Whining With Tea Party In 2014

The American Spectator ^ | 10-4-2014 | Keli Carender

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

"...Take note: Instead of working to get out the vote, educate voters, and advance Republican and conservative principles in key states, and fire up the base, the establishment has already thrown in the towel. They are trying to shape a narrative about why their candidates lost instead of making sure their candidates win. Their narrative is that tea partiers are… what were those words you used, David? Oh yes. Tea partiers are naïve, sophomoric, and stupid, and this trifecta of character flaws will cause us to behave like petulant children."

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

I wonder what the resident FR GOPe Knee Pad Squadron will have to say about this well formulated response to the lament that conservatives should suck it up again and vote Republican this November. Wipe your chins off guys. You have a little something dribbling there.

[tennmountainman]

Just because they like to be rained on and dumped on by their own
party, does not mean I do.

What is the GOP message, vision or plan heading into the mid- term elections?

There is no message.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

I’m also tired of the canard of using Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment and Lincoln’s statement about a house divided. We did not see them living up to those when it came to Alaska and Delaware in 2012 and Mississippi in 2014. Nor with Mitch McConnell talking about destroying us and punching us in the nose. Nor with Rob Portman and other RINOs ponying up six figure contributions to Thad Cochran to finance the race baiting stunts to get dems to vote against the favored republican candidate in an open primary.

But pay no mind we are to be told. Behave and vote the party line. “You HAD your chance to win in the primaries” they will tell us. HYPOCRITES!

[SoConPubbie]

Wow, the Karl Rove, Chamber of Commerce, GOP-E wing of the party is out in force!

[Tzimisce]

If only the Establishment fought against liberal Democrats this hard. :(

[Liberty Valance]

bttt

[Slambat]

“There is no message.”

Then there is no party. It’s obvious, the republican party
has become the democrat party. Republican is just lie
to get votes. So what we have is a demo/republican party
composed of lying socialists and conservatives. I will not
be voting the party line. I will not vote for John Cornyn.

[centurion316]

This article does a good job of explaining why conservatives are supporting the Democrats and Harry Reid this year. This is retribution, pure and simple. They want Republicans to lose and they don’t care about the consequences. This has everything to do with emotion and very little to do with the execution of a winning political strategy. It’s gotten personal and conservatives want to get even far more than they want to advance political power for conservatism.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

Centurion, as Commander of the FR GOPe Kneepad Brigade, I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up and poh-pooh at this thread. Thanks for not dissappointing.

[centurion316]

Always happy to oblige. Will your comments be anything more than mindless insults, or will you try to actually make a contribution to the conversation?

[GeronL]

I have yet to see any coherent campaign message or theme from the GOPE this year, except their war on conservatives

[sarge83]

Retribution? Making it personal? Calling your base racist and kooks? Punching them in the nose? And it’ s the conservatives who made this personal?

Does the gope pay you to carry their water or do you do your apology rants for free?

This is all on the gope and their “conservative” apologist.

[GeronL]

The GOPE is in an all-out war AGAINST conservatives, and we are supposed to vote for them? The GOP is suppressing its own vote this year

[Maceman]

This article does a good job of explaining why conservatives are supporting the Democrats and Harry Reid this year. This is retribution, pure and simple. They want Republicans to lose and they don’t care about the consequences. This has everything to do with emotion and very little to do with the execution of a winning political strategy. I

You argue like a lefty -- disparaging the character and motivation of those opposing the RINOcrats, while offering no actual arguments in defense of your own indefensible position.

You deliberately refuse to recognize and address specific arguments of which I know you have been made aware (since I have brought them to your attention in other threads), and yet you continue attack what you inaccurately describe as our motives because you really have no rational arguments to make to advance your own proven failure of a position.

Meanwhile, even now the Republican leadership is lowering expectations about what they'll do if they take the Senate in 2014.

And then there’s John McCain saying what will happen if the Republicans win the Senate: “I will work very hard to go back to 60 votes,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who boldly predicts a Republican Senate would process Obama’s nominees “more rapidly than [Democrats] do today.”

And as for the House: John Boehner: ‘Very Few’ Republicans Will Oppose Me

So tell me again how much better off we'll be voting for the RINOs.

[jaydee770]

They (GOPe) keep parroting why I should vote *against* the Demoncrat. Well, I don’t need any more reasons to vote against the demoncrats, I’ve already got plenty.

What they should do is start giving me a reason to vote *FOR* the GOPe candidate. I haven’t heard a single peep in that regard. The (conservative, tea party, etc.) candidates are giving me loads of reasons to vote *for* them. How does the GOPe propose to attractively differentiate themselves from the conservatives?

There’s an additional burden the GOPe must shoulder: why should we believe anything that comes out of their mouths? Even if they did try to “meet or beat” the conservative candidate with promises to reduce govt, promote liberty, restore fiscal sanity, etc — why should we believe them, given their history?

Tough row to hoe for the GOPe. Words are cheap and the GOPe’s combined history is littered with wooden nickels. Actions speak volumes. They can start by growing a legislative spine. I’ll just hold my breath...

[GeronL]

The GOPe is doing their best not to win the Senate

[GeronL]

I’m starting to think the Dems might increase their Senate majority this year, the GOPe seems to be trying to lose this election.

[jaydee770]

"conservatives want to get even far more than they want to advance political power for conservatism"

You are proposing that electing the GOPe candidate will "advance political power for conservatism"? Wow! All I can say is that objective opinions vary significantly! The sheer cognitive dissonance that proposal engenders is crippling.

[centurion316]

I think that the more important question is why are conservatives voting for Democrats?

[tennmountainman]

Or they are looking for a “measured” win, not a sweeping win.
A measured win(just barely taking the senate) will give them an excuse
not to do anything.

A sweeping win(which I believe will not happen) would actually force them
to do something. This is something the GOP does not want.

After all, they would be held accountable.