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I wonder what the resident FR GOPe Knee Pad Squadron will have to say about this well formulated response to the lament that conservatives should suck it up again and vote Republican this November. Wipe your chins off guys. You have a little something dribbling there.
1 posted on 10/05/2014 9:08:17 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Just because they like to be rained on and dumped on by their own
party, does not mean I do.

What is the GOP message, vision or plan heading into the mid- term elections?

There is no message.


2 posted on 10/05/2014 9:11:52 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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I’m also tired of the canard of using Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment and Lincoln’s statement about a house divided. We did not see them living up to those when it came to Alaska and Delaware in 2012 and Mississippi in 2014. Nor with Mitch McConnell talking about destroying us and punching us in the nose. Nor with Rob Portman and other RINOs ponying up six figure contributions to Thad Cochran to finance the race baiting stunts to get dems to vote against the favored republican candidate in an open primary.

But pay no mind we are to be told. Behave and vote the party line. “You HAD your chance to win in the primaries” they will tell us. HYPOCRITES!


3 posted on 10/05/2014 9:16:16 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hey Obama! Wake up and piss! The World's on FIRE!)
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Wow, the Karl Rove, Chamber of Commerce, GOP-E wing of the party is out in force!


4 posted on 10/05/2014 9:16:26 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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If only the Establishment fought against liberal Democrats this hard. :(


5 posted on 10/05/2014 9:19:35 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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This article does a good job of explaining why conservatives are supporting the Democrats and Harry Reid this year. This is retribution, pure and simple. They want Republicans to lose and they don’t care about the consequences. This has everything to do with emotion and very little to do with the execution of a winning political strategy. It’s gotten personal and conservatives want to get even far more than they want to advance political power for conservatism.


8 posted on 10/05/2014 9:46:04 AM PDT by centurion316
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I have yet to see any coherent campaign message or theme from the GOPE this year, except their war on conservatives


11 posted on 10/05/2014 10:18:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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They (GOPe) keep parroting why I should vote *against* the Demoncrat. Well, I don’t need any more reasons to vote against the demoncrats, I’ve already got plenty.

What they should do is start giving me a reason to vote *FOR* the GOPe candidate. I haven’t heard a single peep in that regard. The (conservative, tea party, etc.) candidates are giving me loads of reasons to vote *for* them. How does the GOPe propose to attractively differentiate themselves from the conservatives?

There’s an additional burden the GOPe must shoulder: why should we believe anything that comes out of their mouths? Even if they did try to “meet or beat” the conservative candidate with promises to reduce govt, promote liberty, restore fiscal sanity, etc — why should we believe them, given their history?

Tough row to hoe for the GOPe. Words are cheap and the GOPe’s combined history is littered with wooden nickels. Actions speak volumes. They can start by growing a legislative spine. I’ll just hold my breath...


15 posted on 10/05/2014 10:41:11 AM PDT by jaydee770
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Oh my gosh ... I read the entire thing, including Catron's response to defend himself!

K. Kerinder righteously shreds GOPe shill David Catron with cited examples of blatant hypocrisy on the "let's be a team and beat those Democrats!" exhortation, and observes: Their narrative is that tea partiers are… what were those words you used, David? Oh yes. Tea partiers are naïve, sophomoric, and stupid, and this trifecta of character flaws will cause us to behave like petulant children.

Catron's arrogance in reply is breathtakingly condescending and obtuse: Yet Carender supports the effort of Mississippi State Senator Chris McDaniel to torpedo an incumbent who unexpectedly beat him in their state’s GOP primary. Indeed, McDaniel is not merely refusing to endorse Thad Cochran, he is actually suing him. Carender suggests this is justified by what she describes as Cochran’s “vile, disgusting, corrupt, race-based, left-wing attack” on McDaniel. She claims to understand that “politics is messy,” but supports sore loser tacticts ....

..... capped off with this talking down to us less "mature" peons: All mature voters understand that a trip to the polls usually means one will have to pull the lever for the least worst candidate. If you are foolish enough to allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good ....

Catron himself is foolish enough to vote for a morally and ethically bankrupt fraud like Cochran, or for a presidential candidate, Romney, who was 100 percent philosophically on-board with Democrats on every single major issue -- all the while pretending that he is/was voting "against" Democrats. THAT is as foolish as it gets.

The Stupid Party. As a lifelong Republican, that it's the truth makes it hurt all the more. The reality remains: The Republican party is frustrating the political solution we seek and require. To get clear of this mess, limited government conservatism has to get clear of the Republican party.

43 posted on 10/05/2014 2:26:48 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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I can’t wait until the election is over and the GOP can press forward with its plan....oh, wait....


48 posted on 10/05/2014 3:09:10 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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I’m taking my cue from Francisco d’Anconia. They (GOPe) said I’m evil, so I’ve decided to stop being evil.


49 posted on 10/05/2014 3:17:36 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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DAVID CATRON's Reply: Carender has apparently failed to grasp that an important element of the Democrat strategy this year is to divide and conquer.

You are projecting what you and your Ruling Class GOP leadership itself has done in terms of attempting to divide and conquer their own base. What you turds did in MS is UNFORGIVABLE.

The President’s party is headed for an electoral debacle unless they can trick some conservatives and tea partiers into sitting home or voting for Democrat ringers this November simply because their candidates failed to win some primary bid.

The President has NOTHING to do with tricking any Conservative into voting their conscience instead of voting your Establishment picks shoved down our throats. It is YOU guys and YOUR derision, intimidation, castigation and endless threats and name calling like the stupid hit piece you wrote on Monday that has convinced us to abandon your party to it's own consequences. You deserve to lose.

The smart move for these conservatives would be to send a message to the Democrats that their courthouse skullduggery is not enough to fool them into electing a Democrat shill like Orman.

WRONG. The smart move is for Conservatives to send a message to your party and your leadership that their wife-beater, Democrat-esque sabotage and betrayal of Conservatives will be remembered and all your attempts to shame and intimidate us into electing yet another RINO Democrat-lite stooge will finally come to an end.

Carender, in a sublime case of unintentional irony, unwittingly supports my point when she cites Republican Rep. Mike Castle’s refusal to support Christine O’Donnell in the 2010 general election (for Joe Biden’s vacant Senate seat) after she unexpectedly beat him in the Delaware primary. “We’ll never know for sure, but had Mike Castle supported Christine O’Donnell, vouched for her across the state, and encouraged voters to give their support to her, it is very likely that the GOP would have picked up that seat in 2010.”

That is the most inane attempt at suggesting Irony when Carender was noting the fact that when the chosen Establishment stooge LOST a primary, the GOP Ruling Class abandoned them and actively supported the Democrat. Carender does NOT support your point, she eviscerates the very idea as the hypocritical pap it is.

Yet Carender supports the effort of Mississippi State Senator Chris McDaniel to torpedo an incumbent who unexpectedly beat him in their state’s GOP primary. Indeed, McDaniel is not merely refusing to endorse Thad Cochran, he is actually suing him.

And AMEN. I hope to God that your party's voter fraud and despicable actions are punished beyond your Establishment Cronies the ability to recover…EVER.

Carender suggests this is justified by what she describes as Cochran’s “vile, disgusting, corrupt, race-based, left-wing attack” on McDaniel. She claims to understand that “politics is messy,” but supports sore loser tactics that far exceed the sins of Mike Castle.

Oh Puhleeeze! "far exceed"?? Your party leadership SHAT down our throats and engaged in sabotage and smear and demonization of their entire base and adopted the same exact race-baiting corruption the Democrats do, JUST to defeat a Conservative.

if the Democrats get out and vote while Carender and her friends sit home and sulk, the blame for the inevitable Democrat corruption and bad policies rests squarely on the shoulders of these abstaining voters. NO DIFFERENT THAN DEMOCRATS.

All mature voters understand that a trip to the polls usually means one will have to pull the lever for the least worst candidate.

Been doing that for over two decades pal. We are in this mess PRECISELY because we betrayed our principles to vote for the 'least worst candidate'. No more.

If you are foolish enough to allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good, you lose.

We are told by Our Lord and Savior to 'Be Perfect' - because in so doing, we WIN. Only a demon and devil tells us that striving for perfection is an enemy of what is "good".

“There is no substitute for victory.” You can whine or you can win. Those are your choices.

If our choice is between a MarxoFascist democrat and a Ruling Class GOP Liberal, there is no winning, only losing.

We are better off to write in a Conservative or vote third party for a true Conservative than be forcibly limited to only the choice the Central Planners present to us as "your only options".

Go and pander for the votes you need from Mexicans and the great "moderate" Democrats out there. That is whom you party seeks to replace Conservatives with anyway.

54 posted on 10/05/2014 9:07:13 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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