Posted on 09/30/2014 7:40:47 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Here is the math:
Ebola had infected about 4000 known cases by 2014-09-16.
Incubation up to 21 days.
Rate of new infections during incubation period: R2.0 (i.e. roughly doubling)
Population of earth: ~7.2 billion
Number of doublings from initial ~4000 to ~8 billion: 21
21 X 21 days = 441 days from September 16, 2014 = December 1, 2015
How many times do you see a medical professional wash their hand on entering your room or leaving it.
If they’re not doing it in your room, where do you think they’re doing it?
Oh boy, you are one of those.
To avoid admitting your mistake you will claim the outhouse is more hygienic, the old ice box with it's wet interior and wildly fluctuating temperatures, and a 1900 kitchen that was impossible to keep clean are all superior to a modern kitchen and refrigerator and indoor plumbing.
After all that, you seemed to drift off into some personal reminiscing about your own personal life a 100 years ago.
So, the next time you pay attention and spot the person stocking the salad bar pick the zits on their face (with the little plastic gloves on) and walk out before ordering, remember what I have asserted here. People are less conscious of hygiene in the age of antibiotics than they were beforehand.
Have a nice day. I will waste no more time with you.
Good Lord man, I am being rational and honest, you are posting absurdities to be argumentative and to support an absurd claim.
You think walking barefoot through the yard and chicken mess to get to the outhouse at night and coming back and crawling into bed with your brother is more hygienic than a modern bathroom?
You think a difficult to clean large metal and wood ice chest that you put a block of ice into and replace as it melts into water, and interior temperatures fluctuate between between 45 and 80 degrees is more hygienic than a modern refrigerator?
You think a 100 year old kitchen with it’s plain wooden floors and rough surfaces was easier to clean than a modern kitchen today with instant hot water and especially designed durable, easily cleaned surfaces?
Most people would agree that we are MORE obsessed with hygiene and sterility today, than people were a 100 years ago, in fact, many of us worry about the obsession with it.
This is good.
If they don’t make sense to you, they make perfect sense to intelligent people.
Didn't y'all have shoes? Or your own bed?
You think a difficult to clean large metal and wood ice chest that you put a block of ice into and replace as it melts into water, and interior temperatures fluctuate between between 45 and 80 degrees is more hygienic than a modern refrigerator?
No, but people were fastidious about cleaning it or they'd get sick or it would stink. Not so with the new ones.
Most people would agree that we are MORE obsessed with hygiene and sterility today, than people were a 100 years ago, in fact, many of us worry about the obsession with it.
As I said, YMMV. Look around you, outside of your personal envelope where I am sure everything is shiny and sparkling and well perfumed if appropriate and in its place, and see the rest of the world. People are clueless about hygiene, there's trash everywhere, crud in the corners, and the floors are sticky.
My grandmother would never have had her house that way, wood floors and all--not rough, but waxed to a shine and God help the fool who tracked dirt in.
>> “especially designed durable, easily cleaned surfaces?” <<
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That are perfect bacteria farms? - Unlike most woods, that naturally resist bacteria and most mold?
Try Jeremiah 17:5-8 for some reality.
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Non-responsive, you just keep portraying the average American of a 100 years ago as being so obsessed with hygiene and cleanliness that they overcame all of it, the lack of daily baths and indoor plumbing, water heaters, and refrigerators and so on through what you see as even greater obsession with body odors and clean clothes and household germs and bacteria count in food storage and preparation than we see today.
As far as getting out of my “personal envelope” in regards to the world of bathrooms and kitchens in America, I will say that your experience with them could not hold a candle to mine.
Enough trifling. Bye. I don’t have time for your cantankerous drivel.
You mean you made an absurd claim and rather than being able to just catch yourself and let it go, you want to keep bringing up absurd ways to try and justify it.
That is cantankerous and argumentative, when you try to claim the hygienic superiority of ice boxes over refrigerators and outhouses over modern bathrooms and hot water, and kitchens of a 100 years ago over modern kitchens.
My point wasn't about technology anyway... it was about the way people have become increasingly complacent about disease in general with the advent of antibiotics, and do not practice hygienic behaviour.
If you can't see that, that's your problem. Unless you live in a bubble, you are at the mercy of their bad habits. Now, why don't you go check elevator buttons for boogers or something equally useful.
LOL, you keep claiming to go away, but you don’t.
You keep claiming that I live in a bubble, but I think I know more about hygiene in the average American homes around the nation than you do, easily so since it is connected to my work, and I have done it in many states.
Outhouses, the lack of hot water and indoor plumbing, refrigeration, poorly designed kitchens and food practices, and people who didn’t bathe or clean themselves or their clothes like today, and a society and culture that did not obsess over germs and sanitary conditions and personal hygiene like today.
I don’t know what restaurants were like in 1930, but I can tell you what they were like in the mid 1960s.
If you practiced the average hygiene of pre antibiotic America today, you would be repulsed and repulsive.
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LOL!
Yeshua probably didn't know as much as you know, he only created us...
Matthew 15:
[1] Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
[2] Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
[3] But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
[4] For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
[5] But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
[6] And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
[7] Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
[8] This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
[9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
[10] And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
[11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Think of all that CO2 from the decomposition rendered back into the atmosphere. What will Al Gore say?
Oh, you’re the moron who did not want to block returning folks from Liberia yesterday. How’s that working for you?
Wow, you really are out there today.
Their hands are usually too lovely and manicured to be washed as much as they should.
I probably wash my hands at least ten times more than a nurse would.
My handwashing is constant when preparing food
To you and your kind, I suppose, and as I said, that is a good thing.
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What is with your raving today and all these senseless personal attacks?
You are the only one making attacks here.
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