[Smokin' Joe]

You claim the gadgets are the source of hygiene. No, it is the people. You can have clean dirt floors, or septic marble ones. You just don't and won't ever get that. It is how you live, not what you have. The ice box, the refrigerator are inanimate objects. It is the people who use it who are or aren't hygienic in their habits. Not everyone who lives without running water, electricity, or central heat lives like a pig. Many with all the amenities do.

My point wasn't about technology anyway... it was about the way people have become increasingly complacent about disease in general with the advent of antibiotics, and do not practice hygienic behaviour.

If you can't see that, that's your problem. Unless you live in a bubble, you are at the mercy of their bad habits. Now, why don't you go check elevator buttons for boogers or something equally useful.

[ansel12]

LOL, you keep claiming to go away, but you don’t.

You keep claiming that I live in a bubble, but I think I know more about hygiene in the average American homes around the nation than you do, easily so since it is connected to my work, and I have done it in many states.

Outhouses, the lack of hot water and indoor plumbing, refrigeration, poorly designed kitchens and food practices, and people who didn’t bathe or clean themselves or their clothes like today, and a society and culture that did not obsess over germs and sanitary conditions and personal hygiene like today.

I don’t know what restaurants were like in 1930, but I can tell you what they were like in the mid 1960s.

If you practiced the average hygiene of pre antibiotic America today, you would be repulsed and repulsive.

[anton]

Oh, you’re the moron who did not want to block returning folks from Liberia yesterday. How’s that working for you?