Posted on 09/17/2014 11:54:07 PM PDT by GraceG
I am starting this thread to get suggestions on what items would be useful to have at one's house and at the ready for the following scenario.
Initial Conditions:
1. Ebola has started to ravage the United States and many people are already infected with it, many of whom don't even realize yet that they are infected.
2. The the emergency rooms and hospitals are already filled up to the brim with fresh Ebola cases making hospitals a dangerous place to be if you don't already have Ebola and useless in terms of actually helping you any way if you do.
3. There is a good chance you are already exposed and are incubating Ebola in your system and plan on staying home in self quarantine in an attempt to ride out the virus in the slim hope you will survive.
Now after reading up on Ebola and what the "experts" say one of the factor i thought was interesting would be that we in the United States stand a higher chance of surviving due to nutrition factors. This is what is prompting me to make List of what items culd be most useful in this scenario. Based off my limited scientific understanding I am thinking the following items would be very good to have.
Items to have and reasons to have them:
1. Drinks with a High Electrolyte content, such as Gatorade, Poweaide or even Pedialite. Reason: this is based off the idea that a lot pf people with Ebola and the associated illness tend to be losing a LOT of liquid during the whole bleeding otu of everywhere phase.
2. An AntiEmetic agent such as Emetrol, maybe Benadryl, or even Marijuana (if you are in Colorado or Washington state). Reason: People in stages of the Ebola tend to throw up a LOT and this vomiting weakens their system to the point of where combined with the fluid loss hastens or even can cause their demise from the fever stage.
3. Easy to eat canned foods, specifically canned chicken noodle soup. Reason: power may be unavailable to cook food such as soups from boxes and if sick as dog with Ebola having a can of chicken soup to eat even if it is cold will help along with the electrolyte drinks may help with the loss of nutrients that the vomiting and possibly diarrhea in the bad stages of the infection.
4. Cold/Flu Medication. Reason: Anything that can lessen the symptoms of fever and help make a person feel better to not be throwing up all the time is a good thing, I think. I am still not sure what medicines OTC would work best against Ebola symptoms if any, but the anti-emetic properties of things like Benadryl may be helpful with the vomiting issue.
5. Chewable or liquid vitamins. Reason: Due to nutrient loss keeping vitamin levels up may be a helpful thing to do to boost your immune system as it attempts to fight off this horrible disease. Not sure if with the nausea if gummy vitamins would work or not. Since the internal organs (meaning digestive tract) may be bleeding internally not sure if a regular (bed pan bullet) type vitamin would even be absorbed I have reasoned that chewable vitamins or liquid vitamins would be best in terms of vitamins. For extra doses of vitamin C maybe consider eating cans of frozen Orange Juice Concentrate, but I have concerns about the increased acidity. I think having immune boosting vitamins such a A, C, E and Vitamin D3 would be a very good idea just in case.
So that is my list so far of helpful items to have on hand in case the SHTF on this whole Ebola thing. Please add to this if you have any good suggestions and let me know if I am completely wrong on anything I have posted above.
gatoraid was developed for football players who's bodies consumed the sugar for energy during the game. Sugar in a long term situation actually works against the electrolyte and rehydration of the body.
Great idea, thanks for the thread.
Folks that harp on that concept do a disservice to knowledge.
I am learing how to make CS. Super easy. No excuse to not know the procedure.
“A local newspaper had an article about the doctor from Holden, MA (right next door to me) that is recovering from Ebola in Nebraska. I asked the question, Whats to say that he is just going into remission and still carries the virus, which has gone dormant. He could still pass it to others, right?
Well....the first thing we must know, is that the devil is a LIAR. So, whether or not this plague has gone dormant means very little to that LIAR. Satan “wants” us to be confused about the very thing you, and others may ask, and are not sure of...instead of TRUSTING God to keep you from it.
People have to learn to understand that we live in a Fallen World, and that so many things we (think) we have to suffer in this world are simply by-products of being in a “fallen state”. That’s just what it’s like to live in a place where Satan is the ruler. Which Also leads me to say, because of man’s rebellion toward God and the Very One He sent to save us from this world...We are being “Judged”. The whole world is. But particularly, America. For she is a ‘canker’ in the eyes of our God.
Unlike humans, God goes beyond what WE deserve in as far as “reaching us” so that we may not perish....like the world. Yet another reason why mankind needs a Savior!
So...to answer your question, I would say to TRUST GOD, so that you never have to wonder about something like that again. You can be free from that ‘bondage’ that Satan keeps the people of the world in with his lies, and deception. Just as the “World” loves it’s own, God Loves His Own,and keeps them. Satan, just want us spiritually dead. Remember: Fear=death. Trust & Faith in God=LIFE
I am canceling my Liberian vacation right now! snort///>//
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Having a supply of food will be key if there is an outbreak. Grocery stores will be one of the few places that people will venture outside their home during an outbreak which makes it a likely place to pick up the virus.
Any suggestions on filters and masks? I have read that a P100 filter is effective against viruses. The masks come in S, M, L sizes. Is it reasonable to order on line or are there retail outlets that sell masks/respirators so that you can try them on as sizes and fit will often vary?
Xlent!
“Ultraviolet UVC light has been proven to greatly reduce hospital acquired infections and viruses such as Ebola because it disinfects surfaces, liquids, and air by killing DNA based contaminants like the ones mentioned above. UV kills DNA based contaminants by using wavelengths to penetrate the cell wall and damaging the structure of the cell and DNA making it unable to reproduce and effectively kills the cell.”
Grace, your point #5, is a good start, and I believe we should go further...
“5. Chewable or liquid vitamins. Reason: Due to nutrient loss keeping vitamin levels up may be a helpful thing to do to boost your immune system as it attempts to fight off this horrible disease. Not sure if with the nausea if gummy vitamins would work or not. Since the internal organs (meaning digestive tract) may be bleeding internally not sure if a regular (bed pan bullet) type vitamin would even be absorbed I have reasoned that chewable vitamins or liquid vitamins would be best in terms of vitamins. For extra doses of vitamin C maybe consider eating cans of frozen Orange Juice Concentrate, but I have concerns about the increased acidity. I think having immune boosting vitamins such a A, C, E and Vitamin D3 would be a very good idea just in case.”
We need to be proactive, not just reactive...
To build up the immune system (before exposure to Ebola) go heavy on A, C, E, D3, Selenium and Alpha Lipoic Acid. Start now...protect yourself against all the viral and bacterial attacks waiting to happen.
D3, for instance, I think we need 10,000 units a day. Vitamin A (not just beta carotene) 25,000 units a day. Selenium 200 mcg a day and Alpha Lipoic Acid 300 mg a day. Vitamin E 400 to 1200 iu per day, and not all from alpha tocopherol...there is gamma tocopherol, the tocotrienols. All of these things work synergistically.
A few doctors are in the know and are sure that high doses of vitamin C, as in Intravenous C, will stop/cure Ebola if started early. Ebola depletes the body’s vitamin C. Ebola and other hemorrhagic fevers create an acute form of scurvy. Vitamin C prevents/cures scurvy.
We make our own liposomal vitamin C here at home, and this allows us to take high doses internally without causing diarrhea.
I think the ‘elites’ want Ebola to make significant reductions in the population of this country and the others around the world. I believe we can foil their plans/wishful thinking.
Comments welcome...
“1. Dont go to Liberia.”
Obama should be with the troops he is sending to Liberia, leading them!
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Great Points, I think I may post an updated thread once I have more information from all the wonderful freeple.
Using an Ultrasonic Cleaner to make Liposomal Vitamin C
2.5 Liter Ultrasonic Cleaner
Chicago Electric Power Tools item #95563
From Harbor Freight Tools
http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html
RECIPE
Distilled Water 5 Cups
Granular Soy Lecithin 1 Cup (100 grams) added to the water, completely dissolve
Distilled Water 2.5 Cups
Sodium Ascorbate 5 Tbls (level) (85 grams) Add to water, completely dissolve
Sources
Granular Soy Lecithin (Non-GMO)
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-lecithin-granules-non-gmo-3-lb-1362-grams-granules
Sodium Ascorbate
http://www.supersup.com/nutribiotic-sodium-ascorbate-2-2-lbs-powder-728177004521
Mixing Instructions
1. In a 2 qt canning jar or mixing jar with tight fitting lid pour 5 cups of distilled water. Add 1 Cup of granular soy lecithin and agitate vigorously, repeating as necessary to allow the lecithin granules to soak up all the water.
Note: If you do not have a 2 qt canning jar, use 2 1 qt jars with tight fitting lids and put 2 1/2 Cups water in each, along with 1/2 Cup granular soy lecithin in each.
Note: Mix the lecithin/water at room temperature During the soaking period vigorously agitate the mixture from time to time. At the conclusion there should be no lecithin granules visible. Allow several hours for the lecithin to completely absorb the water. Set this smooth lecithin/water mixture aside.
2. In a 1 qt mixing or canning jar pour 2.5 cups of cold (room temperature) distilled water, dissolve 5 level tablespoons (85 grams) of Sodium Ascorbate. Make sure it is totally dissolved, very important!
3. Pour the Sodium Ascorbate solution into the Ultrasonic Cleaner.
4. Turn on the Ultrasonic Cleaner and slowly add the Lecithin solution to the Sodium Ascorbate solution in the Ultrasonic Cleaner bowl and stir the contents together. Stir with a plastic straw while doing this.
Note: The Cleaner has a button that will turn on heat. DO NOT use this feature. Heat in excess of 46 OC (115 OF) will make Vitamin C ineffective. Set the time on the Cleaner for 480 sec. Continue stirring with the plastic straw (leaving the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirring the contents. When starting the mixing with the lecithin/water at approximately room temperature, it wont get too hot.
Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop after 480 seconds (8 minutes). Reset the time to 480 seconds and push the ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 5 or 6 series (40 to 48 minutes). The entire solution should be blended into a cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The Liposomal C solution is now well formed.
Note: It is not necessary to continue stirring with the plastic straw for the 40 to 48 minutes. Heat is generated during mixing. If you use the lid, monitor the temperature. The temp will rise more during the mixing operation if the lid is on the unit.
Refrigerate the Liposomal Vitamin C after making it.
This batch makes about a 5 day supply of liposomal C for two adults.
If you used approx 1/2 Cup of Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate 4 times per day. This will give you a daily dose equal in effectiveness to 150 grams (150,000 mg) of intravenous Vitamin C. Doctors using intravenous vitamin C (IV-C) will normally do IV-C twice a week. You will do this daily.
Vitamin C mega-dosing continues to unleash healing miracles around the world...
(NaturalNews) Remember the story of Alan Smith from New Zealand, and his dramatic recovery from a coma with mega-dose vitamin C? That story went viral and was featured in the New Zealand version of “60 Minutes.” But some sources didn’t have it quite right. The mega-dose vitamin C was not by IV for the last two weeks. They were through a uniquely new oral C product.
Alan pulled out of his coma from white-out pneumonia (lungs whited out in X-rays) and complications with leukemia. He had been on life support, and doctors were threatening to turn it off and let him die when his family intervened. They went through a series of sagas and legal hassles to get the hospital to administer IV C.
The doctors complied at first, and there was enough improvement to convince the hospital staff not to pull the plug on his life support as they had threatened. But the hospital felt they knew better and stopped the IV C. Alan’s condition worsened. After legal intervention, they continued at only two grams IV C daily instead of the 50 grams daily before. Alan’s condition went into a critical limbo.
Alan Smith only began to improve after taking Lypo-Spheric packets.
You can view the first segment of the 60 Minutes Alan Smiths story here ( http://www.3news.co.nz/Living-Proof-Vitamin-C-—Miracle-Cure/tabid/371/articleID/171328/Default.aspx ) .
So how did six grams per day of a special vitamin C oral compound manage to do the work of 50 to 100 grams of IV C daily?
The mechanics of liposomal encapsulated vitamin C
Cardiologist and orthomolecular specialist Dr. Thomas Levy, MD discovered exactly why the clinical results of this type of oral C could match the efficacy of many times as much vitamin C by IV.
Dr. Levy was skeptical at first. He has treated thousands of patients with IV-C and is seriously involved with orthomolecular (high dose vitamin treatment) medicine. He couldn’t believe what was happening with this oral C compound’s ability to match or surpass clinical results with much higher doses of IV-C. He described liposomal C as 10 times more effective than IV-C. As an example, he has shown that 5 grams of Vitamin C which has been encased by liposomes is equal to 50 grams of Vitamin C that has been given intravenously! Liposomes can more easily assault and penetrate many forms of infective biofilms resulting in a very effective delivery system against these pathological forms.
He came to realize that the combination of vitamin C and essential phospholipids radically improved cellular bioavailability. Less than 20 percent of IV C gets into cells. But the Lypo-Spheric compound permits 90 percent of the C to get into cells. That’s because cell walls are made of fats. Vitamin C is water soluble.
Tiny particles of vitamin C coated with phospholipids create molecules of vitamin C coated with a substance similar to the cell walls. Thus those coated vitamin C molecules can slip into the cells easily. The encapsulation also avoids diarrhea thresholds of normal oral C.
Though not nearly as expensive and much more accessible than IV C treatments, the product might not fit long term use on a low budget. So make your own! The homemade version, as described on the first page, might be slightly less than 90 percent bio-available to your cells.
Dr Levy says, Cure is by far the best word there is in medicine. It would seem that you cannot spell cure without C (as in Vitamin C).” I do not think Dr. Klenner would dispute that. And there is no doubt whatsoever that Dr. Klenner would wholeheartedly approve of Dr. Levy stating this.
“The three most important considerations in effective vitamin C therapy are dose, dose, dose. If you dont take enough, you wont get the desired effects. Period!”
Grocery carts are germ magnets. I always wipe my cart down with an antiseptic wipe. Most stores even provide them now. I’ve gotten sick much fewer times since I’ve been doing this. Not sure how long Ebola stays viable on inanimate surfaces. I know Hepatitis B can be infectious for months on surfaces. People need to learn how to practice “aeseptic techniques” when handling things. Many common objects are filthy, and hand sanitizer doesn’t kill many of the easily transmissible microorganisms. Think Norovirus and C. diff.
Ain't it the truth! We used to never think of such things.
My husband thought I was silly to wipe carts down until a guy sneezed all over his face and hand and then wiped his hand down the side of his body - I told my husband "there you go, he's the guy that's touching your cart" - now hubby wipes carts down thoroughly - even more so than I do.
Smug... you do know the virus can live outside the body for a number of days... right?
It’s not like AIDS... With AIDS no one is wearing space suits... ever wonder why?
A handgun and one bullet?
“Ebola Polka”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Qfo2iHzT0
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