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Is Your Firearms Training Realistic?
Townhall Magazine ^ | Sep 09, 2014 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/12/2014 12:09:36 PM PDT by RC one

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To: RC one

Right.
While acting in a civilian capacity, I have presented myself where my weapon was visible three times. I have drawn once. I have shot zero times.

...and this is from my contracted guard days.

Preparing for a self-defense scenario is impossible. The advise I was given and the advise I give is to get familiar with your weapon and practice handling your weapon. Nobody wants to be fumbling around trying to chamber a round or fumbling around trying to get a safety off or trying to undo a holster strap when seconds count.
Or women... trying to dig through a purse to find your weapon or reaching in a glove box thats locked... etc, etc.
I practice getting it out, getting it locked and loaded, and getting on target as quickly as possible. I would never know if I was upside-down on my back trying to ready my weapon or running a sprint trying to ready my weapon... I would never know.


41 posted on 09/12/2014 1:45:43 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: WayneS

This is The Peoples Republic of CT....never happen.


42 posted on 09/12/2014 1:46:51 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: RC one

Yes fortunately most of the time just showing the weapon is enough to diffuse the situation. Most criminals are looking for the easy target. They move on if it looks like a fight.

Mr. GG2 and I were in a situation a few months ago and we just gave the guy the stinkeye and he seemed to have ESP that it was going to be a bad outcome. He swerved off and kept walking away from us.


43 posted on 09/12/2014 1:47:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. You see the lions on TV surrounding the slowest or injured antelope. Same thing.


44 posted on 09/12/2014 1:48:47 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: RC one

Me and the wife were on the range today. She fired off 100 rounds in her new Glock 42 .380 pistol. I fired up my new shotgun with buck shot. Man what a hole that makes in the targets. Any guy I ht with that will not get up off the floor.


45 posted on 09/12/2014 1:49:30 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Billthedrill

We should just put up signs that say “No Threat Zone”.
Then everyone would be safe forever.


46 posted on 09/12/2014 1:50:32 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Post 10 did sound that way.


47 posted on 09/12/2014 1:58:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: BenLurkin

Ha, my neighbor saw me coming back from an obvious hunting trip.

“How’d you do? Kill anything”

I said “OH yeah... I racked up this time. I shot four pepsi cans, a miller lite and a bud light... two fence posts and a what looked like a spent diaper at 100 yards.”


48 posted on 09/12/2014 1:58:42 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: ansel12

There you go being an absolutist.


49 posted on 09/12/2014 2:00:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: RC one
If any of you are in the Salt Lake area, these are a great bunch of guys. They meet every month and do self defense scenarios.

Utah Polite Society

50 posted on 09/12/2014 2:01:27 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Since I am the guy trying to get you away from being an absolutist, that was a pretty silly post.

I guess you were even absolute in what you would tolerate as a response to your post 10.

Anyone who follows the firm advice you gave them in post 10, could find themselves in deep trouble.


51 posted on 09/12/2014 2:05:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
I gave no advice in post 10. I expressed a personal observation. People do it all the time.

What advice did I give?

52 posted on 09/12/2014 2:17:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

People would do well to avoid your advice and not absorb your “observations” to incorporate them into their knowledge of threat risk.


53 posted on 09/12/2014 2:26:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: RC one

Don’t know I could here in print. But basically, up until a few months ago, I shot about 50 rounds a day in a pit where I could set up targets as I choose, run drills etc.


54 posted on 09/12/2014 2:27:20 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the sers don't count.)
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To: ansel12
You didn't say what my advice was.

What was my "advice," Skippy?

55 posted on 09/12/2014 4:40:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: ansel12
I realized something.

You are offended by the fact that I called bad guys "cowards."

The only reason you would be offended is because you have probably participated in criminal activity.

I'm right, aren't I?

56 posted on 09/12/2014 4:42:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So it turns out that you are just an internet troll.

Post ten was overboard, which made it inaccurate, you can naively cling to whatever fantasies fill your head, the important thing is that normal people not listen to you.


57 posted on 09/12/2014 5:43:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
You said I gave advice in post ten, yet you refuse to say what that advice was.

You seem to quite the troll yourself.

58 posted on 09/12/2014 5:47:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Bad guys are, first and foremost, cowards. That’s why they operate in packs. And they are only interested in defenseless victims."

There are conversations where that generalization can apply and be useful as part of making a point, but the strong way you used it, is completely wrong, a lot of bad guys love danger and excitement and by no means do they always operate in packs. When you hear of bad guys being armed to the hilt and security obsessed, it isn't cops they are afraid of, it is the other bad guys that scare them, the bad guys who know that they are armed to the hilt with guns everywhere.

34 posted on 9/12/2014 1:10:12 PM by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 |

59 posted on 09/12/2014 5:53:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Uncle Miltie

You should teach her the right way—to be just as judicious with the ammo. Would she have another mag handy if there were multiple and determined perps who waited till she was empty?


60 posted on 09/12/2014 5:55:45 PM PDT by rabidralph
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