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Flight Diverted After Passengers Feud Over ‘Knee Defender’ Blocking Reclining Seat
ABC via Yahoo News ^ | Aug. 26,2014 | ABC News

Posted on 08/26/2014 7:33:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF.

A $22 product designed to protect the most sacred of things when flying –- personal space -– led to an unscheduled landing in Chicago during a flight from Newark to Denver.

Two passengers aboard the diverted United Airlines flight got into a heated argument Sunday after a male passenger used the product, the Knee Defender, to prevent the woman in the row in front from reclining her seat.

The man, who was not identified, placed the Knee Defender’s brackets on his tray table attached to the back of the seat in front of him, 11B.

The female passenger seated in 11B became angry over not being able to recline her seat and reportedly threw a cup of water in the man’s face.

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; producttampering; tempertantrum; uncooperative
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To: the OlLine Rebel

several folks’here’did comment about the over-arching fact that it is getting sad people can’t work together on relatively minor/easy problems between each other.


81 posted on 08/26/2014 10:56:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“golden rule” has been replaced with “i do what i want, m-effer” for many people nowadays.


82 posted on 08/26/2014 10:59:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: altsehastiin

Did she pay $xxxx for a reclining seat?

If the guy needed more space, he could have paid for a seat with more room instead of taking space the woman paid for.


83 posted on 08/26/2014 11:33:40 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: Michael.SF.

84 posted on 08/26/2014 11:39:50 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Fromt person should ask rear if he minds seat being reclined. Rather than assuming it she is an island.

Bingo!

Personally, I don't see the problem.

I'm 6' 4", with a relatively short torso and loo-ong legs.

When the person in front of me tries to recline his seat (and never, in my 30-some-odd years of flying has anyone ever had the courtesy to first even only glance in my direction before attempting to recline), he will find that this is impossible, because my legs are in the way.

After a minute or two of futile fiddling with the reclining lever and huffing and puffing, the person in front of my will either a) give up and leave his seat unreclined, or b) finally look behind himself and ask if something is blocking his seat, whereupon I smile and say, "Why, yes: My bleeding kneecaps!"

Regards,

85 posted on 08/26/2014 11:41:57 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: luckystarmom
I don’t think it’s rude at all.

There's the problem. You don't think.

86 posted on 08/26/2014 11:52:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Inyo-Mono
One of many reasons that I will never fly again.

Just fly 1st class, or business class on overseas flights. I think the spacing is different. (So are the benefits. Long ago, on Pan American JFK to Narita, in 1st class they served Dom Perignon all the way --)

87 posted on 08/27/2014 12:02:11 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: super7man
What the passenger behind me does NOT have the right to do is let their 4 year old kick my seat, climb on my seat, throw his food, scream just for the heck of it

I'm totally with you there, buddy. I cannot STAND little kids behind me kicking my seat, screaming in my vicinity (it reverberates so much more in the confines of a plane), standing up on their seat and touching my head, etc. Since I paid good money for my seat on the plane, I believe I am entitled to sit there in peace and read, watch the movie, etc. without disturbances like this. I give the parent about 30 seconds to get their kid to stop kicking, touching, or throwing stuff on me. After that, I will tell the kid to stop. Screaming, I leave correction to the parents.

As for reclining, I paid for my seat, I'm gonna recline if it's more comfortable for me to sit like that. I never recline full back, just a little bit. And I don't snap my seat backwards suddenly to spill my back neighbor's drink or something. If the back neighbor was employing a "Knee Defender" or some such garbage, I'd have the stewardess take it away from them. Those things are illegal on most major airlines.

88 posted on 08/27/2014 12:51:13 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Close.

Muslims would solve the problem by blowing up the whole plane.


89 posted on 08/27/2014 12:55:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Michael.SF.

If you’re 6’ or taller, simply jamming your knees against the seat in front of you will prevent it from reclining. If the passenger isn’t a lardass, you can also slowly push the seat back to an upright position. Been there done that.


90 posted on 08/27/2014 1:29:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: Michael.SF.

I found additional claims in other articles about this.

* United airlines bans these devices by policy.

* The stewardess asked the man to remove the device, he refused.

* The lady threw the drink after the man refused the stewardess’ request.

* The seats they were in have 4 more inches legroom than standard coach. (this article said it had more but not how much)

Guess united could ban the guy from the airline for using prohibited device and refusing to take it off when asked


91 posted on 08/27/2014 1:35:11 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: flaglady47

“LOL, that IS funny, I must admit. Remind me never to be sitting either in front of you or behind you on a plane. If in front, I might be forced to toss a glass of water your way. Or maybe to cheer you up, a glass of wine, white of course, so it won’t stain.”

LOL!!! That IS funny what you wrote. flaglady, be aware that there are people like me who just don’t want to get into it with A-HOLES who recline their seat FULLY — particularly when meal service is STILL going on. Rather than “get into” it with a-hole (as they have already demonstrated by putting a seat fully reclined) I prefer the passive method of getting even. A few boogers in their hair tossed by me pretty much satisfies my need to beat the crap out of them. Problem solved. And yes, in the past I HAVE gotten lips from idiots who do that, after they’ve been politely asked not to. A night flight over the ocean is one thing, but even then these people should not get huffy when asked to UNrecline the seat so the person behind can get up to use the restroom.


92 posted on 08/27/2014 2:22:02 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Economy class on a Pan-Am 747 in the late 60s.

93 posted on 08/27/2014 3:17:30 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Michael.SF.

Not to worry people. In the spirit of “problem solving”, congress will be passing new regulations that will, very soon, make flying a total living hell for all involved. Count on it.


94 posted on 08/27/2014 3:30:00 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Bobalu
the cabin crew should have ordered him to remove that contraption.

They did and he refused.

95 posted on 08/27/2014 4:43:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Reclined or not reclined, my legs are cramped.

If “leg room” is really people’s concern, choose THE FRONT ROW when confirming your seating, choose First class when purchasing your tickets, choose the row behind the ones over the wing (since those seats don’t recline), or charter a private plane.


96 posted on 08/27/2014 4:47:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Mount Athos
Guess united could ban the guy from the airline for using prohibited device and refusing to take it off when asked

If he'd claimed to be muslim, the airlines would've given up any argument over the matter.

97 posted on 08/27/2014 4:49:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: steve86

Just saw a picture of the interior cabin of a Malaysian Air flight....
Two people in there...
Maybe that’d work for you?
I’d get on one for all that room!


98 posted on 08/27/2014 5:39:38 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Michael.SF.

I bet this story will end up on:

http://www.flightsfromhell.com/


99 posted on 08/27/2014 6:05:18 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: MRourke85
I am 6’4 with long legs. ANY recline by the person in front of me crushes my knees.

I am not sympathetic any more than I would be sympathetic if a huge person next to me wanted the arm rest up. Buy a first class ticket. or ask for an exit row. or buy two seats and sit sideways. Those seats can be murder on your back and sometimes you want to lean them back. If you don't fit in the plane don't fly.
100 posted on 08/27/2014 6:06:51 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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