Posted on 08/26/2014 7:33:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
A $22 product designed to protect the most sacred of things when flying –- personal space -– led to an unscheduled landing in Chicago during a flight from Newark to Denver.
Two passengers aboard the diverted United Airlines flight got into a heated argument Sunday after a male passenger used the product, the Knee Defender, to prevent the woman in the row in front from reclining her seat.
The man, who was not identified, placed the Knee Defender’s brackets on his tray table attached to the back of the seat in front of him, 11B.
The female passenger seated in 11B became angry over not being able to recline her seat and reportedly threw a cup of water in the man’s face.
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Hahahahaha, good.
Does William Shatner know you do this?
Damn airlines. Whoever designs these planes should be made to sit in the middle seat in coach for hours. The space we’re given is getting smaller and smaller and I’m only 5’1”, but my husband is 6 ft tall. Now they even switch seats on you even after you’ve already picked your seats.
“Seats on planes with no legroom should not recline. Period!”
Dittos.
No, we tall people are very dense.
Haha. In all seriousness I have managed to get those seats to avoid the problem, and I’ve been sandwiched between a five foot whale in front of me (I’ll call that recliner +).
Never have I had a confrontation over the issue.
But in coach it does feel like a world made for people in the 40s and 50s when people were shorter.
It’s like going into an historic building and sitting on a tiny toilet.
And at 6’ 2” I’m about 195-200 pounds, so I’m not exactly huge.
My solution is for people to be willing to exchange seats and allow for common sense seating arrangements.
It can’t always be done for sure, especially when traveling with young kids.
The best idea would be for the airlines to reduce the number of seats and increase leg space.
Notice the trend with movie theaters.
They are going to big wide comfortable chairs that fully recline and it doesn’t bother anyone.
There is room for people to walk in front of and behind you without moving.
I experienced this last time I was at the theater at the river walk in SA, and I was so impressed.
There were maybe 30 seats in the theater and every seat was filled.
They are on to something.
The sardine method looks good on paper, but lots of us just don’t fly anymore unless absolutely necessary.
Now when I fly I go private.
Maybe you should consider surgery. Or pay for a bulkhead seat or one in a row where the seat in front of you doesn’t recline. Because when I’ve been working all day, and am flying home on my own time, I’m going to recline and take a nap, even if it’s just for an hour between the pilot’s incessant commentary.
I suspect you won’t book on one of the new planes with the shell style ‘slide forward’ recline, because that would eat up your leg room, and you probably want to recline while denying it to the passenger in front of you.
Not to highjack this thread, but I have travelled all over the world and have always respected the person in front of me being able to recline even if it is uncomfortable for me to work. If I really wanted more room I would buy a Business or 1st class ticket.
BUT
What the passenger behind me does NOT have the right to do is let their 4 year old kick my seat, climb on my seat, throw his food, scream just for the heck of it (I do understand little kids and the pressure at landing. I can forgive that.). I try with the partents first then with the cabin staff.
Leaving tomorrow for Ireland and England. Cheerio.....
I couldn’t have said it better. If possible, I volunteer for the second exit row if there are two rows next to each other. No reclining seats in front of you and you can recline and have some legroom. I actually have removed the hatch and slid/jumped off of a wing during annual training when I was on flying status.
I always cringe when I see passengers wearing flip flops or other types of similar footwear—the training always reinforced wearing adequate footwear in case you have to exit the aircraft other than the way you got on board.
I recline on 45 min flights for some fast shuteye usually. I don’t have a problem with others doing that too, it’s expected. It’s like another poster said... your space begins after my seat is fully reclined.
I’m 6’2, just do what I what I do. I pony up a bit extra for business class, for an across Canada trip it was 95 bucks extra, no big deal. All the room I need.
I do miss the days of traveling by trains and civilized passengers.
… here’s a technical solution for you all. Airline seats could still be designed to be reclined but it would require a second release button that was operated by the passenger directly behind. At the beginning of the flight during the general announcements, there would just be something tagged on after all the “here’s how you buckle up…”stuff. It would go something like this…. “For most of the seats on this plane, you will note that your seat can be reclined. However, many of the seats behind you may be occupied by people who cannot have a seat reclined due to leg length, working on a laptop or some other reason. On the other hand, some of those people may have short legs, want to recline and sleep themselves or generally don’t care if the person ahead of them wants to recline. If you are one of those people who are willing to have the seat ahead of you reclined, you can voluntarily push that release button now. However, if the individual behind you has not released your seat for recline, please respect their decision. Please note….. if you attempt to recline your seat, it automatically releases the seat ahead of you for recline.”
And GM hasn’t made a Corvette in 40 years that can fit me. Maybe I can sue to get a custom job.
The Americans with Disabilities Act fits in here somewhere, I’m pretty sure.
Why remove her? Just stone her in the aisle. Much more convenient as there are no unexpected stopovers...
“This is why liberals support Islam because it would stop arguments like this by having the woman removed from the plane and stoned to death.”
There actually are a few attractive aspects of that culture. For example, I will bet that there are no frivolous lawsuits in Islamic courts. When they dismiss a case with prejudice, I suspect that they don’t fool around.
reclining seats have been known trigger restless leg syndrome...
“Does William Shatner know you do this?”
The product is “knee defender” not “gremlin repeller”
What is pathetic is I see people here taking sides, and unless I missed it not wasting time reading every single reply, not replying with proper protocol.
Fromt person should ask rear if he minds seat being reclined. Rather than assuming it she is an island.
Barring that, when front person reclines, rear person remarks that it is bothersome and asks if front would please not recline (or less, you get the drift here). Instead of bringing a passive-aggressive device to simply prevent it.
Barring that, front simply inquires what is happening, apologizes that it might interfere, etc.
Reach a compromise, perhaps.
For all the PC garbage about “choose civility”, we majorly fail at it these days.
I am 6’7”. Certain seats have more leg room. I used to get them, but I travel with my daughter now and she can’t sit in the exit aisle. People recline; I deal with it.
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