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Police Officer: 'if you don’t want to get shot...just do what I tell you.'
Reason.com ^ | 08/19/2014 | J.D. Tuccille

Posted on 08/19/2014 11:37:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604

"If you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground," warns Officer Sunil Dutta of the Los Angeles Police Department, "just do what I tell you."

The thing is, Officer Dutta (pictured) is also an Adjunct Professor of Homeland Security and Criminal Justice at Colorado Technical University. And he uttered those words not in the heat of the moment, but in an opinion piece in the Washington Post responding to widespread criticism of police attitudes and tactics currently on display in Ferguson, Missouri, but increasingly common nationwide.

Dutta continues:

Don't argue with me, don't call me names, don't tell me that I can't stop you, don't say I'm a racist pig, don't threaten that you'll sue me and take away my badge. Don't scream at me that you pay my salary, and don't even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

Dutta actually comes off as a reasonable law enforcement officer...He endorses the use of body cameras and dashcams to record interactions between police and the public. He counsels, "you don't have to submit to an illegal stop or search. You can refuse consent to search your car or home if there's no warrant."

And yet he demands unresisting submission to police without argument or even legal protest. Just how do you "refuse consent to search your car or home" without running afoul of the no-nos Dutta warns may get you "shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground"?

Remember, this is a thoughtful police officer, with a PhD., who teaches criminal justice.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; libertarians; police; riot
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1 posted on 08/19/2014 11:37:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

What part of “curfew” and “disperse” is not understood?


2 posted on 08/19/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Rusty0604

“this is a thoughful police officer...” Nope. Just a pig.


3 posted on 08/19/2014 11:42:44 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Rusty0604

Heh heh.

In other words, mo matter how big a JBT, thug with a badge, donut munching dog shooting SOB he is...

Do what he says! Do what he says!


4 posted on 08/19/2014 11:43:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I don’t think he was talking about a riot situation.


5 posted on 08/19/2014 11:43:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

What was initially an ever so slow inching along closer to the police state keeps picking up speed and is now lazily galloping along....


6 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:14 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it is important to know what you believeÂ….and more importantly, why you believe it.)
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7 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: bamahead

bookmark


8 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:40 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Rusty0604; null and void; bamahead

“Do what I tell you” Ping


9 posted on 08/19/2014 11:44:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: bamahead

lolol

I just pinged you 4 seconds later. I knew you would “appreciate” this thread.


10 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:02 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Rusty0604

the Library of Congress has its own SWAT team as do 53 different federal agencies.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:20 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Rusty0604

Too many cops are willing to beat you, taze you, throw you to the ground and even shoot you if you don’t appear to be groveling sufficiently.


12 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Americans to both our great credit and frequent frustration just don’t like being told what to do. If it’s a policeman telling us to do as we are told....it’s our choice as to the consequences


13 posted on 08/19/2014 11:46:43 AM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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To: Rusty0604

I think you should do the opposite of what you are told by this guy.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 11:47:15 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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To: Rusty0604

“you don’t have to submit to an illegal stop or search. You can refuse consent to search your car or home if there’s no warrant.”

These two sentences include so many footnotes and conditions that they are meaningless. Especially about “warrantless searches”, “no knock searches”, “exigency searches”, “anonymous informant” and “secret government surveillance” searches, “dog authorized searches”, and “illegal search but still admissible in court” searches.


15 posted on 08/19/2014 11:48:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: McGruff

That’s what Mike Brown thought. Look where it got him.


16 posted on 08/19/2014 11:50:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Rusty0604
"And he uttered those words not in the heat of the moment, but in an opinion piece in the Washington Post responding to widespread criticism of police attitudes and tactics currently on display in Ferguson, Missouri"
17 posted on 08/19/2014 11:51:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Rusty0604

"Just do what I tell you" is the other extreme position. No ... we will not "just do" what you tell us unless you are operating within the constraints of the law yourself. We have rights; you work for us.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 11:58:48 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Appreciate it.


19 posted on 08/19/2014 12:03:09 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?”


20 posted on 08/19/2014 12:03:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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