Posted on 07/31/2014 11:19:44 PM PDT by No One Special
There's about a 21 day period between contracting ebola and the appearance of symptoms. Can the disease be passed to another before the symptoms appear?
Excellent and worth repeating:
“He was on the plane on the 20th. If others on the plane got it, they should be showing up by this weekend through next week.”
IF ‘they’ were infected, continued about to their destinations, went about their normal life interacting in the general public, then IF symptoms showing up in the next week, the virus is loose, and all bets are off.
Did you read the comments on the timeline of his sickness? Some of the posters think Nigeria killed him to stop him spreading it.
I’m seeing reports on Twitter that 2 cases have been reported in Surulere, Lagos. Trying to confirm.
#EbolaOutbreak
Yes I did. Seems politics are causing a lot of the “fog of war” information and reactions.
Another news source from the area is:
http://www.frontpageafricaonline.com/
It’s format looks like a “rag” type of publication, so I am not sure how reliable it is. However reading the articles about bodies not being picked up, floating in rivers, etc. make my hair curl. Also, it sounds like the entire health care system is falling apart.
How do you like “The Hot Zone”? I tried to read it but I could not get past the first few chapter- in fact it was the only book I ever returned to the bookstore because it sucked so bad
Should I have stuck it out past chapter 3 or 4? It’s not a huge book at all
It’s not even a question of hygiene. People can be contagious long before you realize that they are actually infected. If you don’t realize they are infected, easy spread of the disease.
You can, and if the disease is immediately lethal as ebola is, you have the person trying to violate quarantine killed.
AIDS is transmitted through “bodily fluids” and see how that is spreading globally and causing a panic? Me neither...
Ebola Zaire is EXTREMELY infectious and has a close to 90% mortality rate. If it was hard to catch this would not be news.
over 700 people dead already, and that is just the first wave (or, more likely, 2).
Count the days back to the first person- about 3 to 6 weeks ago, and all 700 dead are from that one person.
If, in the next 2 weeks, there is no further spread - then the scare is over.
But so far it went from 1 person to about a dozen in 3 weeks, and then 700 in 6 weeks. If it goes over 5,000 then start securing your prep supplies.
Multiply each wave by 27 (as seen so far)
1
27
729
19,683
531,441
14,348,907
387,420,489
10,460,353,203 <~~ yes that’s 10 BILLIION in 141 days
It would NOT be a bad idea to stock up on AT LEAST 3 months supply of water and goods (don’t forget toilet paper)
if it was only possible to infect someone AFTER showing symptoms, then almost every disease could be prevented by isolating sick people
This is HIGHLY contagious- if it was hard to catch it would not be a story.
It may also be true that 20th century hygiene has weakened us to things that used to make us stronger (by exposure to)100 years ago.
When I was a kid we actually made mud pies with REAL MUD (and actually dared each other to eat them). Today this would warrant an ambulance ride to the hospital.
I totally understand. Just answering those who say that medical care and hygiene practices in this country make ebola a big nothing. I don’t scare easily and bringing ebola over here intentionally scares me.
Given how the government works in every other situation my only question is how far it would spread and how many infected and dead there’d be before they’d admit they might have had a lapse in Atlanta.
All the guys in atlanta would be dead before they would admit a lapse
I suspect at the first indication there’s been a lapse the upright ones would be on their private planes to their retreats in Wyoming and Idaho and wherever else.
Any lapse won’t be infecting the head of the CDC or the guy in charge of Emory medical facility. The lapse will take out the maintenance staff and/or some low level nursing staff.
And their families.
And then all the rest of us. What concerns me most is the outbreak in Africa is now out of control. Even the CDC let alone the African authorities admit the situation is not contained and escalating. I wish we did a little more study there before deciding its a great idea to bring the disease over her. Clearly something has changed from what we though we knew about ebola
I;m not without compassion. I would send one of our navy hospital ships over staffed with volunteers to treat american citizens and anyone else we could help. But I am afraid we will regret voluntarily bringing the infection over here.....
OMG, you don’t really believe that do you? Hygiene is not that good in America anymore and it will not stop Ebola.
I feel bad for these people, but they should not bring Ebola knowingly into this country.
It lives on surfaces for 5 days or more.
And may be transmissible via aerosol particles. Like from sneezes:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28610112
No question.
I posted last night that I suspect Kent Brantly is no longer in complete control of his faculties. I don’t honestly think he would agree to be brought to the US under the circumstances. I think this is a political action aided by a weak spouse and self serving faculty at Emory.
And I am absolutely done with Samaritan’s purse. D. O. N. E. They have behaved highly irresponsibly under the circumstances by allowing medical personnel who have been exposed to ebola patients, even peripherally, to travel back to the US via international airlines. I’m speaking specifically of that doctor under ‘voluntary quarantine’ in East Tennessee and Kent’s family.
From a previous post
Not likely but if the TSA start wearing masks be afraid it won’t be Halloween.
This strain looks like it is AIRBORNE, not like influenza or the common cold, but it survives in large droplets in the air. The definition of airborne is being parsed.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423
From the article:
“One possibility is that the monkeys became infected by inhaling large aerosol droplets produced from the respiratory tracts of the pigs.
One of the scientists involved is Dr Gary Kobinger from the National Microbiology Laboratory at the Public Health Agency of Canada. He told BBC News this was the most likely route of the infection.
“What we suspect is happening is large droplets - they can stay in the air, but not long, they don’t go far,” he explained.
“But they can be absorbed in the airway and this is how the infection starts, and this is what we think, because we saw a lot of evidence in the lungs of the non-human primates that the virus got in that way.”
Basically macaques and pigs in the same room no physical contact but Ebola transmitted.
Yeah, it scares me too. I wouldn’t bring a known infected American back either, until either he was dead, or the disease really ran its course in the quarantined area. I’m totally on board with you.
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