23 Years For Nurse Who Raped Young Child, Conspired To Rape 18-Month-Old

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[Morgana]

VERNON — A former nurse practitioner from Vernon admitted in court on Thursday that he raped a 3-year-old girl and conspired to rape an 18-month-old baby.

Jay Mohler-Avery, 46, in pleading guilty, also admitted trying to get the mother of the 18-month-old to move her four children and herself in with him so they could be his sex slaves.

He claimed, according to the police investigation, as outlined by prosecutor Elizabeth C. Leaming, that children would not be harmed by having adults sexually exploit them.

"Children should be able to explore their sexual curiosity in the home with other children as well as adults," Mohler-Avery told the 18-month-old's mother, according to Leaming. Mohler-Avery also badgered the woman for days to bring her 18-month-old daughter to him so that he could "break her in early," Leaming said.

[mdmathis6]

Oh so I am a creep?!

Michael D Mathis RN of 28 years and still counting! You’ve never been around a lot of female RNs haven’t you? We ran a couple of them off after we caught them stealing dope and working on the job while under the influence.

You might be wise not to trust the medical professions in general at this point, especially while we are under the aegis of Obamacare!

[Gay State Conservative]

You’ve never been around a lot of female RNs haven’t you?

Twenty years in a major hospital's ER.As you'll surely know ERs attract many,many females nurses as well as disproportionate number of male nurses.A much larger percentage of the male nurses I interacted with were pathological than was true of the females.I only knew of one nurse who was into scheduled substances.He was caught,given a chance at rehab and reinstatement (with restrictions and monitoring) and,when I left,he was about 1.5 years "clean" and counting. I liked "Mike"...he was a decent guy.And for the record I interacted with at least two other decent,respectable,"normal" male nurses...one of whom was an NP.

[Morgana]

“People are overwhelmed with horror and disgust, and they recognize that, for all the 23-year sentence, this man will probably be out in 10, and will almost certainly conspire - and possibly succeed - in raping additional toddlers.”

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Thank you TC that was very well stated. I agree with Mrs. D in that FReepers need not get so medieval on the criminal. However it has been proven these sex offenders never stop.

I so agree with you TC in that I will be amazed if he serves the whole 23 years. We may thank Dr. Kinsey for this. In fact we may thank Dr. Kinsey for all the horror in this article, it reads like something Kinsey would have said.

Maybe this is why in the Bible they were stoned to death? Is it because even back then they figured this fact out? Who knows? Or maybe the thought of raping a baby back then was even appalling that it got a man death by stoning.

Mrs. Don-o all I can say is pray for his soul, but morally he is lost. This man is evil and should never see the light of day again because I promise you that if he got out of jail he would rape a child again. As much as even I hate to say it only a firing squad would stop him.

[Tax-chick]

I took some flak years ago for saying that we shouldn’t imitate savage behavior by, for example, sentencing a man who had thrown acid in the face of his estranged girlfriend to similar treatment in a public stadium.

“You think he should get away with a slap on the wrist!?!”
“No, I said I thought he should be shot. Can’t you read?”

I’m also on record saying that, if we’re going to sentence minor criminals to anal rape, we should come out and openly do it ... perhaps even have the people who give the sentence also do the deed.

I don’t really like saying the person should be shot. However, if we’re trying to prevent him from causing further severe harm to others - whether “he’s” a child rapist or a repeat murderer - we have to do something. At this point, our system neither prevents his being released - no matter what his sentence-of-record is - nor prevents his causing severe harm to others while incarcerated.

In addition, the system limits the possibility of genuine rehabilitation for many by restricting Christian programs for prisoners. Prison Fellowship’s programs have an excellent success rate in reducing bad behavior in prison and recidivism. However, the system cannot acknowledge that turning repeat offenders into productive, law-abiding, born-again Christians is an improvement.

[mdmathis6]

Pathological is a vague term....there are striking ways males tend to exhibit pathological behavior verses female. Passive aggression is what one runs into the most from the females.

Most male nurses I work with are married and stable, 10 per cent are single and straight...10 per cent are gay. 50 per cent of the females I work with are divorced with issues(drinking, drugs, multiple affairs). About 15 per cent are lesbian and loudly proclaim it! The other 35 per cent are mostly married and stable (or single, stable and are or soon to be engaged). This is typical of the ICU environments I have worked in over the years.

I’m considered an anachronism...a conservative male RN who doesn’t drink, smoke, disagrees with pot legalization, seldom uses profanity and doesn’t hit on any woman. Many women kind of laugh(not unkindly) at me when I come around the corner and they are speaking about an off color subject and I give them a kind of “oh boy, oh brother look” and turn the other way...yet they respect the fact I don’t try to get into any other woman’s shorts. I’ve been married 25 years and they know it and they sometimes make mention of the ring I wear on my finger as in “I get upset when my husband won’t wear his wedding band, he makes all kinds of excuses not to”.

Read the accounts of Jezebel and King Ahab...in the old testament. It is a great psychological primer as to the psychologies I deal with amidst the male, female RN mixes I am familiar with.

[Morgana]

“I don’t really like saying the person should be shot. However, if we’re trying to prevent him from causing further severe harm to others ................-”

I so agree!

“In addition, the system limits the possibility of genuine rehabilitation for many by restricting Christian programs for prisoners. Prison Fellowship’s programs have an excellent success rate in reducing bad behavior in prison and recidivism. However, the system cannot acknowledge that turning repeat offenders into productive, law-abiding, born-again Christians is an improvement.”

I was not aware of this! Do you know for how long this has been going on and in what states?

I know some protestants in my area who do prison work, they seem to have no trouble. I have even known some Muslims (yes I know everyone) to go into the jails. The Catholics, and Mrs. D you should know if this, have the Legion of Mary http://www.legionofmary.ie/ which visits people in jail and seems to have a positive affect.

I agree there should be more Christians visiting the jails and they should be allowed.

I saw a documentary of Jeff Dahmer and that he converted to Christianity. He was even baptized in prison before he was murdered. I know these people do have a positive affect.

[Morgana]

“50 per cent of the females I work with are divorced with issues(drinking, drugs, multiple affairs). About 15 per cent are lesbian and loudly proclaim it! “

Good heavens!!! How many of the male nurses are taking drugs do you gather? Just wondering.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Harmless Teddy and others:

I assume that by referencing "millstones," your referring to these words of Our Lord:

Matthew 18:6

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

I am not one who calls capital punishment murder, when justly applied, so if you see his hellbent creature's best fate to be prompt execution, I'll go for the millstone: it'd be quick.

But his real best fate would be repentance and a life of atonement, because it is written:

1 Timothy 2:3-4

This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

This is neither a pacifist nor an anti-death-penalty argument I'm making: it's what would befit his soul--- without our becoming torturers and imperiling our own.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Of course not: what he did was a satanic crime deserving of hell. But it is not God's will that any be lost; nor is it beyond God's power to have mercy on the repentant:

1 Timothy 2:3-5

This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
who wants all people to be saved
and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.

This is God's will. Many of us are in the habit of praying that God's will be done.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I have two sons. Why do you ask?

[Mrs. Don-o]

I have, in point of fact, been molested. Why do you ask?

[mdmathis6]

Perhaps the term “drugs” is rather vague and needs more “nuance”. It could be prescription anxiolytics, anti depressants, or pot. Quite a few examples of “talk about heavy drinking at the party the other night”.

Then of course we have the med diverters but that is far more serious case. There was one male diverter that I caught and turned in and others caught 2 females in the last 5 years at least on my unit.

I’d say male RN’s don’t have the sole franchise on pathological behaviors in hospitals and neither do the women.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you. The death penalty can be applied justly. It would be appropriate for a crime like this, if there were not the possibility of keeping the perv in jail until his last dying breath.

So it's unjust that they didn't give him "life, with no possibility of parole." Still, as it is, he will be dead before his 23 years are up: he may be dead on Day One if he other cons get ahold of him.

I desire for this man what I desire for myself: salvation. Jesus saves. Savior is His Name.

[Mrs. Don-o]

A quick gunshot to the head could be administered justly. That’s how a “just” punishment should be: swift, severe, and certain.

[Gay State Conservative]

Is why I said firing squad at dawn. Get it over with. Death penalty for rape and he never does it again.

There's one...and only one...argument that can be made against the DP for the rape or molestation of a child.And it's a powerful on.You're giving the pervert an incentive to *kill* his victim.What are they gonna do...execute him twice?

[Yaelle]

I think raping an adult should be a capital crime nationally if with special circumstances: which would include more than one victim or murder of victim. This tosses out date rape and was she willing. If he’s raped before, he’s cooked. If he murders her he’s cooked.

Convicted of rape or molestation of child: capital crime from the first victim. We don’t need those people in society and we shouldn’t have to pay for their food or air conditioning.

[Morgana]

“This tosses out date rape “

How is date rape not rape? Rape is rape. When she or even he says “no” it’s rape.

Most date rapes happen in fact because the woman, and now a man, can’t say “no”. Either they are too drunk or been slipped the “date rape drug” Rohypnol, sometimes both.

Dude sexual predators are slick. Just because a woman or a man can’t consent does not mean the predator has the right of way.

Here’s a website on Rohypnol:
http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-publications/fact-sheet/date-rape-drugs.html

[Yaelle]

I’m sorry. I know that date rape is rape. However, there are many situations where it is a he said she said, and I wouldn’t want an innocent guy who maybe didn’t know how drunk a girl was at a party, to go into the electric chair. Of course I would want any convicted rapist to go to prison. But if that was his first time, and if the evidence didn’t point to force clearly (roofies would ), then I’d not want him to get the death penalty.

A guy who assumed the girl was willing, but later she says she was drunk and didn’t know what she was doing and tried to protest but he didn’t understand her because she seemed to be going along, shouldn’t die over that.

And that guy would never do it again. He’d make sure his partners were wide sober and willing so as not to be arrested for rape again.

A real rapist would do it again. And then the death penalty.

I was just wiping out those confusing cases to prove.

[Tax-chick]

I know some Protestants in my area who do prison work, they seem to have no trouble.

It's not that people can do visitation, hold programs, and so on, but Prison Fellowship has a program in which they, in essence, operate part of a prison according to their principles which they've found effective in rehabilitation. Inmates have to agree to participate, they can't just be assigned there.

In at least one state, a program was operating that was very effective in reducing prison violence/crime and recidivism, but it was threatened or shut down because someone in the system objected to its being overtly Christian, with mandatory services, Bible study, and prayer for the participants.

It might have been Texas; I'm vague on details, but I remember reading about it.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I have never and will never advocate torture as a punishment, not because the guilty do not deserve it but because of the harm it does to those who administer it. I would rejoice if he repented and got right with the Lord.

Before his execution.

His death would be part of his atonement.

There is no good work that he could do in this life to atone for the sheer horror that he has imposed on very small children.

Oddly enough when you find a truly repentant criminal they usually embrace their punishment because they know it is just.