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‘But, My Pit Bull Would Never Attack’ May Be Wishful Thinking
boston.com ^ | June 24, 2014 | Megan Turchi

Posted on 06/24/2014 10:17:25 PM PDT by ransomnote

Pit bulls make up 6 percent of the dog population in Canada and the US, but they are responsible for 68 percent of dog attacks and 52 percent of dog-related deaths from 1982 to 2009, TIME Magazine reported.

So, how does Boston stack up?

According to data provided to Boston.com from Mayor Marty Walsh’s press office, there were a total of 661 dog bites in the city of Boston between January 2012 and June 2014, which included bites against animal, human and unknown victims.

Pit bulls make up a little over 3 percent of the entire dog population of Boston. There are 250 registered pit bulls, pit bull mixes and Staffordshires listed as registered in the 2014 list of dog licenses, as provided to Boston.com, with a total of 7,355 registered dogs in the city.

The data defines ‘pit bull’ as a dog having American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire, pit bull or Staffordshire as either the primary or secondary breed.

“Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites,” according to a 2011 study conducted by the Annals of Surgery. After a young girl was recently attacked by pit bulls at her grandfather’s house in Mississippi and suffered a broken nose, jaw, cheekbone and eye socket, TIME Magazine looked at the “problem behind pit bulls.”

Much of the attention given to this story on social media was drawn to the claim that a KFC worker allegedly asked the girl to leave the restaurant because of the scars on her face, but TIME gave attention to the initial dog attack.

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To: Ditter
If you want to know how to give a cat a pill, let me know.

I'm not sure how one does that, but my imagination pictures welder's gloves with wide cuffs and a very large, very thick, beach towel. Probably an extra person, too.

I don't currently have a cat, although I do like them. I won't get one as long as I have my dog because she thinks cats are the most wonderful dog toys ever invented.

121 posted on 06/25/2014 5:39:13 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: kanawa

Well, since you don’t have facts, data, or any sort of proof, you’re gonna have to go with ad hominem attacks and innuendo. Keep it up.


122 posted on 06/25/2014 5:53:29 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: FourtySeven

People, people! Let’s all just relax, the solution to this argument is simple: everyone should just get a cat.

79 posted on 6/25/2014 6:26:45 AM by FourtySeven (47)


Tiger or lion? :)


123 posted on 06/25/2014 6:02:07 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: rmh47

When giving a pill to a cat it helps if you have big hands. Put the cat on a table or counter top, hold the cats head with your hand around the back of its head. Put the tip if you thumb and the tip of your middle finger onto the side of the cats head. Begin swaying the cat back and forth to distract it and quickly squeeze the cats jaws to force them open. Then quickly with your other hand put the pill down the cats throat. It helps if you can watch someone else do it first, I told you it was complicated. If you are quick enough the cat doesn’t have time to bite you.


124 posted on 06/25/2014 6:21:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
I can see how that might work...if you do it just right. If not...well...

Thanks for the info.

125 posted on 06/25/2014 7:03:42 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: ransomnote

Facts are things that can be independently verified.
I’ve given you the contact name, if the truth is important to you, go verify it.


126 posted on 06/25/2014 7:30:28 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa
Glad I read to post 125 before I responded to your ping.
IMNSHO:

No matter the breed, if you own a “pet” animal, you are entirely responsible for all the actions of that animal.
No excuses.

Any animal is capable of attacking, at any time, for purely animalistic reasons.
I've owned many pets.
Two of my domestic mixed breed cats have suddenly and viciously attacked visitors to my home.I can't fault them for their instincts,as those they attacked were actually “threatening” to the status quo of the home.
My very large and very well trained AKC registered German Shepherd never actually attacked anyone, but only because I never gave him the opportunity to follow through on his protective instincts.

Having owned many cats and dogs, I would NEVER allow any animal unsupervised access to small children, or unfamiliar adults.

127 posted on 06/25/2014 8:01:41 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: kanawa

Facts would require me to have access to the bodies of the dead animals and proof that those were indeed the animals in question - not the hearsay of someone who claims they were there and saw the right dogs. Did she not agree with the vet? Who else saw the dogs? Were they DNA tested and just didn’t look as pit (mix) as one would expect or? Facts have evidence - you have hearsay. And the pro pit bull lobby has said time and time again that animal control officers have misidentified a non-pit as a pit so how am I to accept hearsay from an animal control office that a dog designated pit is actually a non-pit? You have baseless assertions, nothing more.


128 posted on 06/25/2014 8:13:03 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ansel12

IT was light - it would have bent if we had of struck him hard with it!


129 posted on 06/25/2014 8:24:44 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: ransomnote
It seems you give more credence to a newspaper reporter
than to an Animal Control Officer who had observed the dogs.

Why is that?

You ask many pertinent questions but do you make any effort to answer them?
Apparently not.

Why is that?

It is because you are a True Believer, you recoil from honest investigation
and are immune to information that contradicts your preconceived notions

You have the characteristics of an obsessive, moral narcissist... a fanatic.
Reasoning, facts and common sense have no power over you.

You find strength and personal vindication in your sense of moral superiority
but in reality you are rather intellectually and morally feeble.

130 posted on 06/25/2014 10:23:24 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: ransomnote
Trash breed for trashy people


131 posted on 06/25/2014 10:36:47 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: kanawa

Your text is pit bull nutter boilerplate - I hope you guys refresh your tactics, they’re long past stale.

You are sure that only a reporter made the decision; I do not have proof of how many people did or didn’t agree on the breed of the dog and I doubt a reporter, who’s supposed to ask questions and report what they learn, arbitrarily looked at the dogs and just picked a type of dog to report.
Instead of the media creating a reputation for these dogs, the media reports on the activities of the dogs and the trail of blood has built the dog’s reputations.
As proof mounts, like the medical study that proved pit bulls cause more expensive damage and cause more deaths compared with other types of dogs, the problem of pit bulls will be addressed. And pit bull advocates will fight reality every step of the way. Too bad so many should suffer in the meantime.


132 posted on 06/25/2014 10:39:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: rmh47; Ditter

Ditter omitted the part where you have a second person standing by to apply the tourniquets and to dial 911.

[I wormed a cat, once. ONCE]


133 posted on 06/25/2014 10:47:49 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: ransomnote

Tiger of course. The stripes make the cat!


134 posted on 06/26/2014 3:57:18 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ransomnote

6% of the dog population? Does that seem really high to anybody else?


135 posted on 06/26/2014 3:59:23 AM PDT by old and tired
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fyi

http://www.chicagonow.com/steve-dales-pet-world/2014/06/theres-no-problem-with-pit-bulls-misinformation-a-problem/


136 posted on 06/26/2014 4:17:15 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

Over the years we trained all our dogs (mostly German Shepherds) to seek out toddler abuse. It was simple - every single time a baby pulled a tail or poked an eye, we gave the dog a little piece of a hot dog. It wasn’t that those parents weren’t watching or that she didn’t treat the dog’s ear infection, it was that she improperly trained her dog to face toddler abuse. You cannot be there every second, you will miss something. Best to accept that the child’s mistreatment will happen and teach the dog to be a bit of a masochist. We raised 11 children and we have dozens of grandchildren. We have never had a problem. No question, sometimes dogs have had enough, and that’s when they seek out their crates.


137 posted on 06/26/2014 4:25:06 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: kanawa

Yes but pit bulls do it far more than others. That’s the point.


138 posted on 06/26/2014 4:27:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/experts-reveal-how-to-fend-off-dog-attacks/26649898


139 posted on 06/26/2014 4:49:07 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: AppyPappy

“Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweillers)
other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates.”
CDC Report

That is not to say you are wrong, but it may be an effect of the size of the population. The denominator in the equation.

Where I come from most attacks are from Husky/Sled dog types/breeds.
There are many more of them than there are ‘pit bull’ type/breed dogs.

Regardless, strategies, including effective by-laws, rigorous enforcement and an emphasis on education
are appropriate measures that will lessen dog bites/attacks by all types of dogs.

Obviously, larger dogs can potentially do more damage
but even small dogs can cause disfigurement and on occasion fatalities.

I favor an approach that targets all dogs and all owners.
The principles of responsible dog ownership are not breed/type specific,
although their application can be tailor to specific types of dogs.
For example, containing your dog is important regardless of breed/type,
but the fence surrounding your yard must take in account
the ability of your specific dog to jump it.

Freedom of the individual is a cornerstone of our Western Culture
but it must be matched with a keen awareness of the personal responsibility it entails.


140 posted on 06/26/2014 5:11:50 AM PDT by kanawa
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