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I suppose the van outside with * four* child car seats wasn't clue enough?

Full Title: Sheriff in Burned Baby Raid Wants Your Prayers; Target of Warrant Could Be Charged For Injuries to Toddler

1 posted on 06/02/2014 9:40:48 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

SWAT Nazis.


2 posted on 06/02/2014 9:43:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Altariel

Nothing wrong? Since when do you fire a weapon when your not sure of your target. The one they wanted was not even there...


3 posted on 06/02/2014 9:45:06 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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I don’t think the Sheriff knows what the word “unavoidable” means.


4 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:16 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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I suppose charging the a-hole who actually tossed the grenade is out of the question.

The whole damned lot of them should be indicted and prosecuted, including the idiot judge who signed off on it.


5 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:31 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Throwing an explosive device into an occupied dwelling is an inherently dangerous act. In order to ensure that officers exercise due care, they should be strictly liable for any injury to innocents that result from their acts.


6 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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the sheriff has claimed the situation was unavoidable even as he attempted to offer reassurances that his SWAT team would be more diligent in the future.

We couldn't have done anything differently - but from now on we'll do things differently. The keen mind of a JBT at work.

7 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:37 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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They’re going to charge the OCCUPANT for the injuries caused by the grenade tossed by HIS officers?

Absolutely ridiculous and outrageous!


9 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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10 posted on 06/02/2014 9:48:23 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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blamed the target of the warrant (not found at the house that was invaded)

No such thing as a "stake out" any more?
They can't have officers watching the residence to verify their target is actually there?

11 posted on 06/02/2014 9:49:54 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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12 posted on 06/02/2014 9:51:13 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Yeh not that they are getting death threats and a trillion dollar lawsuit to follow they feel devastated.

This is total BS. Why didn’t they know the subject of the raid was not home? Looks like they had zero intel on this. Why not just follow the guy and pick him up at work or at the store? Better yet why not just knock on the door in broad daylight and execute the warrant like they are supposed to do?

So no drugs, no arrests, the perp not home and they just had to do a no knock raid it was so extremely urgent.

For anyone who has not had the pleasure of visiting Cornelia, GA its a little teeny tiny town up in the foothills of N GA. If you blink you miss it.


13 posted on 06/02/2014 9:51:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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nsisted his officers and those of the local police department did nothing wrong and blamed the target of the warrant (not found at the house that was invaded) on the attack on the toddler. A chief assistant district attorney for the county, J. Edward Staples, says the target of the warrant could in fact be charged for the injuries the sheriff's deputies caused the toddler.

Now that is real power, and it shows how crazy deadly the cops have become, and how corrupt and fascistic the system is against us now.

It sure doesn't inspire confidence that this horror resulting from a routine arrest, will result in fundamental change in anything.

15 posted on 06/02/2014 9:52:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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I understand charging the participants in a crime with felony murder even if they didn't commit the actual murder.

That being said, if SWAT could charge Joe Citizen with a crime, even when Joe Citizen wasn't anywhere near that location, then we're all in trouble.

The only ones guilty of anything here is the SWAT team who didn't do proper due-dillegence before they played with their toys.

16 posted on 06/02/2014 9:57:23 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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I thought there wasn’t a need for further investigation.


17 posted on 06/02/2014 10:00:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Also, we’ll make sure the one who made this YouTube video pays for the attacks at Benghazi.


18 posted on 06/02/2014 10:02:35 AM PDT by MNDude
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I want to know what the warrant was for. Was the subject a violent offender on his way to prison for life? Was he on the run for murdering LEO? What history suggests SWAT was even needed? What determines the force of entry they plan to use and isn’t there any recon done to ensure the target is there?

Our Marines in Afghanistan weren’t allowed to enter residence with this much force unless they were under fire. Our combat rules of engagement are more strict than our LEO.

For these LEO to excuse this is really beyond the pale. I question how dangerous this family was considering they took in a family (relatives) whose house just burnt down. I’m not suggesting an arrest warrant wasn’t proper (though I don’t know the charges). But a swat team,... using explosives and a no-knock warrant? As another FReeper pointed out, if they were doing any surveillance, they should have known 1) the target wasn’t there and 2) there were children in the house. I SUSPECT THEY KNEW ONE OR BOTH and didn’t care.


19 posted on 06/02/2014 10:12:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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Cops are completely out of control. The sheriff needs to resign the idiot that threw the grenade needs to go to jail.

I do not understand why these cops are such wussies. This was not freaking Pablo Escobar they are going after for crying out loud. Ever hear of a stake out morons?

21 posted on 06/02/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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The reckless idiots claimed that they did not know that there were children in the house BUT, they threw the grenade into a play pen for crying out loud. Did the think their dealer was armed and hiding in the play pen.


23 posted on 06/02/2014 10:15:49 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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Here’s the problem w most of the SWAT raids gone bad:

The SWAT Teams are so anxious to get out and play, that they don’t bother to double check their facts just prior to execution.

1-Have we verified the address?
2-When was the last check on occupancy?
3-Do we know the subject is present?
4-What are the risks SWAT is presenting to innocents?


26 posted on 06/02/2014 10:23:58 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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They deserve to be prosecuted. Tossing explosive into a non-threatening residence is absolutely a violation of civil rights and physical assault worthy of the criminal charges.


28 posted on 06/02/2014 10:25:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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