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1 posted on 02/02/2014 8:26:55 AM PST by B4Ranch
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You can only have a society like this if everybody, every single person, is living their life to be as much like Jesus as is humanly possible.

There are probably only a handful of people on the entire planet that are that dedicated, so no, it won't work.

2 posted on 02/02/2014 8:29:48 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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“rule by no one,”

Means no rules. . .you make your own rules.

I want what you have, I’ll take it.

No rules or someone to say it is wrong.

If rules say ‘no’ then some one had to write the rules, and if someone says ‘no’ (like the person being robbed) then that person makes the rules.

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Anarchy = nonsense.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 8:31:35 AM PST by Hulka
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4 posted on 02/02/2014 8:33:00 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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I agree with SL that a society without government can't function. What we would benefit from collapsing is global and large national governments that can wage massive wars beyond defense and can't represent the will of the people. People have to have at least some shared interest their government is based on. Diversity is fine, but different views can't be imposed on others. The government should provide safety, economic structure, necessary services and freedom of personal choice.

The New England town meeting of old was a very effective model for governing. Towns could band together to protect themselves from a common goal. Town meetings were the source of decision-making for the good of its inhabitants.

There just can't be any real freedom in the global and national messes that are running things now. They're removed from those they supposedly govern, and their only interest is contolling populations for their gains....financial and otherwise.

6 posted on 02/02/2014 8:42:20 AM PST by grania
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Anarchy is possible, but only for a brief time before the dictatorship.

Pray for a Sulla, be content with a Pinochet. Fear a Cromwell.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 8:51:52 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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This blogger rejects our Declaration of Independence. Do you?
17 posted on 02/02/2014 8:52:05 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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In any truly anarchic situation, people quickly rally around natural leaders, who re-establish government, of a sort at least. In its initial stages, such government often bears a significant resemblance to rule by street gangs.

The term “anarchy,” in its origins, actually meant “without a leader,” not without government. History shows not one single period of which I’m aware of anything resembling a stable anarchic order. (Anarchic order, of course, being a classic oxymoron.)

The choice is not between rule by leaders and absence of leaders, it’s between how leaders are chosen.


19 posted on 02/02/2014 8:55:47 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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These wild swings in societal organization reflect an immoral an immoderate society. The calls for anarchy always accompany the response to the rise of totalitarianism. Time and time again, anarchists transform themselves into totalitarians after they have destroyed the previous tyranny. True anarchy is just another form of Utopianism; it is impracticable and it inevitably descends into tyranny.
A truly civil and just society requires virtuous populace to take root. We had that at the founding of this nation. We once had a people that believed in and feared their Creator; the people believed in a moral order substantially and essentially based on the Ten Commandments. Today, the virtuous populace is but a relic, a minority rump of its past.
That being said, this current tyranny is IMO, capable of enormous evil, and I would ally myself with the anarchist, at least for the time being, to defeat it.


20 posted on 02/02/2014 8:55:55 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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The nineteenth century anarchists defined "anarchy" not as chaos, but as "order without authority."

And then they started using dynamite.

22 posted on 02/02/2014 8:58:55 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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Most people believe that the majority of people are either a) unfit to rule their own lives or b) are unfit to rule others. However, if you believe either of those propositions, then belief in democratic government is self-contradictory.

Typically, people believe that the state is "a necessary evil" for one or more of the following reasons:

  1. The idea that, without a state, "warlords" would take over society--in spite of the fact that having a state guarantees that they will.
  2. The idea that, without a state, the rich and powerful would take over society--in spite of the fact that having a state guarantees that they will.
  3. The idea that only a state can force society to be good instead of evil--in spite of the facts that a) without majority rule, the state is unlikely to do anything but act for the benefit of the ruler(s); b) with majority rule, the state would at best do what the majority would have done anyway (but is still far more likely to do what benefits the ruling class); c) the state is a single point of failure and a high-value target of corruption, and so will inevitably be perverted into doing what only evil people want it to do, given sufficient time; d) there is no absolute standard of virtue ("the good,") because what each person values (deems to be "the good") is subjective, and varies from person to person, and even varies over time for the same person; and e) using the power of the state to dictatorially decree how things shall be almost never produces the desired results, for the reasons eloquently explained in the essay The Dictator Fallacy => [ http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/from-the-downsize-dc-foundation-the-dictator-fallacy ].

And finally, there's this:

"When under the pretext of fraternity, the legal code imposes mutual sacrifices on the citizens, human nature is not thereby abrogated. Everyone will then direct his efforts toward contributing little to, and taking much from, the common fund of sacrifices. Now, is it the most unfortunate who gains from this struggle? Certainly not, but rather the most influential and calculating." -- Frederic Bastiat

23 posted on 02/02/2014 9:00:59 AM PST by sourcery (Valid rights must be perfectly reciprocal.)
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“Anarchists did not try to carry out genocide against the Armenians in Turkey; they did not deliberately starve millions of Ukrainians; they did not create a system of death camps to kill Jews, gypsies, and Slavs in Europe; they did not fire-bomb scores of large German and Japanese cities and drop nuclear bombs on two of them; they did not carry out a ‘Great Leap Forward’ that killed scores of millions of Chinese; they did not attempt to kill everybody with any appreciable education in Cambodia; they did not launch one aggressive war after another; they did not implement trade sanctions that killed perhaps 500,000 Iraqi children.

In debates between anarchists and statists, the burden of proof clearly should rest on those who place their trust in the state. Anarchy’s mayhem is wholly conjectural; the state’s mayhem is undeniably, factually horrendous.” —Robert Higgs


24 posted on 02/02/2014 9:02:55 AM PST by sourcery (Valid rights must be perfectly reciprocal.)
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She’s right. A society for grown ups.

Lot a folks out here want to be either Peter Pan or Capt. Hook though...


33 posted on 02/02/2014 9:20:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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I don’t think that Christians have to worry about their behavior during anarchy. They may have to worry about other people’s behavior, but not their own. If they seek to emulate Christ, then they don’t need laws to know that murdering and stealing and cheating are wrong.

“Love The Lord your God with all your heart and mind and soul and treat others as you would like to be treated.”

Brilliant. Succinct and all-encompassing. Brilliant. Way too brilliant for a mere man. Our people have this brilliance in front of them every day and run searching for long, foolish answers.


38 posted on 02/02/2014 9:27:37 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The problem with anarchy is that it leads to future tyranny by warlords.


61 posted on 02/02/2014 11:20:03 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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Anarchy only works in a vacuum. Much like Libertarianism, it ignores external threats. By refusing to establish a common protectorate, you pretty much guarantee some neighboring fiefdom will be governing you. Some form of cooperative is necessary, and it will need some sort of ground rules and a chain of command to function - and that means government.

And I may get flamed for mentioning this of FR, but any form of governance that allows large hereditary estates to form will guarantee despotic rule.

I’m a big fan of “less-archy”. Other than common defense, I can’t think of a darned thing government is good for besides allowing entrenched aristocracies to form and keeping them in power.


82 posted on 02/02/2014 12:44:58 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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Read this then get back to us. This article completely rejects that we have a 47% problem in this country. Additionally, read my tagline, that 47% will be coming for you and I first with the Government they love (and armed to teeth) and when that collapses in small hordes, hope you have enough bullets.
88 posted on 02/02/2014 1:05:42 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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I learned a lot from this video:

What Anarchy Isn’t:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMoPBDz5ycA&feature=youtu.be


89 posted on 02/02/2014 1:06:09 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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