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Charles Krauthammer proposes two-tiered minimum wage
Daily Caller ^ | 12/30/2013 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 12/31/2013 5:52:59 AM PST by Rusty0604

I think what we really ought — what conservatives ought to do — is say if you can’t feed a family on this, and as a result of our lousy recovery a lot of people are depending on this wage, then I think for people who are the bread winners in a family, it ought to be raised.

...I think for people who are the bread winners in a family, it ought to be raised.…Because I do think if somebody is the only wage earner in the family, I think it would be humane to raise it to a level where they can cover their expenses.

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To: Rusty0604

I believe there should be no minimum wage for the first 6 months of employment. After training and six months OJT the employer can either fire the employee or start paying the mandated minimum wage.


41 posted on 12/31/2013 6:55:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rusty0604

I guess just VOTING OUT the one party that consistently destroys cities, communities, and the economy across the country - the Democrats - would be asking too much??

Going to the source of the problem is out of the question??


42 posted on 12/31/2013 6:57:41 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Rusty0604

Krauthammer’s compassion for the poor is laudable. But we can’t fix low wages by suspending reality and the laws of nature.

Raising the minimum wage in a system with too many workers relative to productive jobs will inevitably drive up inflation rates, leaving the poor worse off due to higher prices, and further devaluing life-savings of those who have any left. The cost of welfare benefits will rise, pushing the nation deeper into bankruptcy and the day when no ones will lend us anything to hand out. But thanks for paving the road to hell, Charles.

To raise real wages:
1) Make employment productive for employers by removing the heavy disincentives created by government and tortuous lawyers;
2) Stop importing vast numbers of unskilled laborers by controlling the borders and deporting illegal aliens, many of whom expatriate their earnings. Reduce supply, increase demand, viola.
3) Reform the education system so that a greater percentage of the population is capable of creating enough value to pay for their own lives. We must reduce our “carry ratio” (the number of productive workers divided by the population).
4) Eliminate incentives to dependency and adopt “adult responsibility” as the minimum standard for any adult who is not adjudged a ward of the State.


43 posted on 12/31/2013 7:02:04 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

Well put.


44 posted on 12/31/2013 7:04:16 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Charles has been going to too many cocktails on the beltway. If your an employer hiring at an entry level company would you hire a head of family, and pay them more or a non head of family and pay them less? Come on Charley stop with the gibberish.
45 posted on 12/31/2013 7:09:46 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Rusty0604

Get into the New Years Eve hooch a little early there, Charles?

Agree or disagree, I have rarely seen Dr. Krauthammer experience a complete breakdown in logic such as this.

Employers are now supposed to dig into an applicant’s breadwinner status? Which will not lead to them hiring only entry-level teens WHY exactly?

I’m no graduate of McGill or Harvard, but even I had THAT one figured out.


46 posted on 12/31/2013 7:13:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sacajaweau

“.spends all her money on herself..”

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Hardly,she is extraordinarily generous to her siblings,nieces,nephews,and parents.

I had 5 kids myself-—but stayed home to care for them. I didn’t expect co-workers to help carry the load.

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47 posted on 12/31/2013 7:20:01 AM PST by Mears
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To: Rusty0604

Kraut is shilling for Hillary and her “Third way’ campaign.

The left wants a min wage of $15, the right wants to leave it where it is.

So what’s the “Third Way”?

Raise it for breadwinners and leave it where it is for others.

Nice try Kraut, but I’m way ahead of you and princess Hillary.


48 posted on 12/31/2013 7:20:39 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Mears
She says the ones with kids get much more leeway than those without children(tardiness,early release for snow etc.)and she doesn’t think it’s quite fair.

It's not fair, but I understand it. Tenants of mine who are lower scale wage earners have four daughters, aged 6 to 16. I have raised the rent regularly upon lease renewal, but less than I could have. They are working folks and children are expensive. I guess I'm goin' too lib...

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that the oldest daughter will be working after school and summers, but it'll probably be off the books as $8.25 an hour is too much for most small businesses around here.

49 posted on 12/31/2013 7:21:46 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: IMR 4350

The other right-leaning member of the Fox panel, Stephen Hayes, seemed to agree with Charles on the principle of an increase (though not on the loopy two-tiered approach).

There appears to be little stomach for standing on principle when the polls are running so much in favor of this.

If the GOP is going to cave anyway I’d prefer they just pass an increase and get it over with. Let’s not give the Left nine or ten months to thrash us about the face and neck with this.


50 posted on 12/31/2013 7:32:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: duckman
"As of Jan 1, I believe 13 states will have the minimum $15.00 wage. It will be interesting to see what happens in the work force and product pricing."

It's incredible---a bunch of blacks and illegals get some signs and protest outside some burger joints, and states rush to give them what they want.

51 posted on 12/31/2013 7:39:00 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Rusty0604

We are “humaneing” ourselves into insolvency (bankruptcy happened long time ago). The end result can only be shared misery worse than the Great Depression, which suits this regime just fine.


52 posted on 12/31/2013 7:46:11 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Raising the min wage is pure lunacy, I don’t care who supports it or from which side they come from.

Just tell anyone who supports an increase in min wage their Obamacare cost will go up, don’t get subsidized if they make more money, and see if they still support it.


53 posted on 12/31/2013 8:04:20 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Rusty0604

I remember an episode of Mary Tyler Moore show that brought up that exact point. Mr. Grant denied a raise to Mary, even though a male employee did the same work she did and earned more money. “He has a family to support,” Grant told Mary. I’m no feminist, but do we really want to go back to that?


54 posted on 12/31/2013 8:05:29 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Rusty0604

Charles forgets the laws of unintended consequences. Anybody in the breadwinner category will not be hired, period, for minimum wage jobs.


55 posted on 12/31/2013 10:06:06 AM PST by gusty
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To: DannyTN
A 10% increase in import tariffs would allow a $1500 per worker tax cut. Government revenues would still soar as the 23% unemployed go back to work. And with a huge tax cut we'd have a lot more money to spend, helping American businesses of all kinds.

Of course, those imports would go up ~10% in price, and the American-made equivalents would go up ALMOST as much in price (just enough to still be just a little cheaper), so you'd end up causing inflation and burn up that $1,500 while causing a trade war.

And this assumes there are American manufactures who could pick up the slack. Without those, you'd have a 10% increase in prices and NO NEW JOBS.

But economics is hard...

56 posted on 12/31/2013 1:13:54 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

We are already in a trade war, we just aren’t fighting back.

Imports are equivalent to 16% of our GNP. So 10% x 16% is 1.6% inflation. I think we will survive. So if the average income in America is $40k then 1.6% x $40k = $600. So even after inflation we’d have, an extra $900 in our pockets.

But if the tariff has the desired effect and people go back to work, then thats a 30% increase in American workers, which means 30% more people out there spending money at American businesses. That can be huge!!!

Government revenues would rise due to the 30% increase in workers. Government outlays for unemployed would fall. People who went back to work would get off of medicaid, food stamps,etc. State and local revenues would rise because more working people mean more people spending money. Bankruptcies would drop. And America would be a lot less dependent on foreign countries.

If American manufacturers didn’t pick up the slack we’d have a price increase but we’d still have the offseting income tax cut so we’d still be okay.

But American manufacturers will pick up the slack. It won’t be instant, but they will come back.


57 posted on 12/31/2013 2:09:59 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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